Sorry mate but why are they doing Advance scaffold inspection courses?
"it is designed around giving the site agents etc enough of an understanding to know when it is not built to the minimum british standards"
The problem is after attending this course, most without any scaffolding back ground they then try to in force what they think is rite.
How can this course be targeted at these sort of people ?
My understanding is the Advanced inspection course covers complexed scaffold structors not you day to day scaffolds we will call them ? Is that not what the basic card is all about ?
Andy your bang on right...It's very hard find anyone with enough knowledge in the subject to give them the right to enforce what they think is right,
That is why we have minimum safety standards from the HSE ...
otherwise who is to say who IS right or wrong with their interpretation.?
The advanced inspection course is more of a refresher for the basic scaffold inspection course, with some progress onwards from what is defined as a basic scaffold (TG20:08) and looking at the details given in a scaffold drawing,
and again it is for the likes of your average site agent to be able to read and understand. don't forget this is a two day class based course that is not designed to enable them to be able to erect dismantle or modify a scaffold but to be able to understand if it is being built to the minimum requirment set out in BSEN12811.1 as they will be the people that are going to be signing the report to say that it is correct.
Don't forget if it's not built correctly and someone is killed or injured as a result and they have signed it off as being in sound condition, it could well be them that goes to prison....ask the site manager that ran the jury inn project in Milton Keens,
I'm sure the scaffolders thought the job was just fine, even though it must not have looked anything like the drawing...that is if they had one of course,
So would I trust a scaffolder on site if he swore up and down that there was nothing wrong with a scaffold if it had been built like that.....NO I WOULD NOT, I would want to have some understanding of what could be termed minimum standard as that is what a judge would accept in a court of law to show I have accepted something that I have deemed to be practiable and sufficient,
don't forget a basic scaffold is a structure that does not require a design, anything that does really comes under the advanced.
Yes I know there is a lot to try and cover in these courses and to make it understandable for everyone that attends, but at the end of the day it will.... as in any class come down to the way the information is delivered by the tutor. And not the person who put's the course content down
But then you will never please all the people all the time, but I don't hear many companies that send their managers on these courses complaining,
and after all the course has been developed with them in mind
Im not making exuses I'm just telling it as it is
