Part 1 no experience!

Podger said:
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Deb very surprised at this comment , you are a supervisor/inspector would you let this guy loose with a set of spanners !!! Events last week have had serious impact on the site where I work at the minute raising issues on training and competence , there are even whispers of impending arrests within the management structure, its people like you and me who are putting our signatures to documentation which could have serious ramifications in the event of a serious accident .

Jb78 bit of bromance going on ? Totally disagree Wass1985 didn't come on to this forum looking for advice he came on here to announce to the scaffold community that he had arrived and was that he was paying for himself , had the CITB stuck rigidly to pre course criteria which states a minimum of six months industry experience he would not have been accepted as course candidate. In the early part of this thread the majority of the posts advised Wass1985 to get some experience as a labourer before going down the part 1 route and now by his own admission considers himself one step above a labourer ! A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, he now has ticket to say he is competent to work at height and erect/dismantle scaffolds well not in my opinion !

Wass1985, I may be a fat old tosser but I don't have justify myself to you , the position
I have within this industry is founded on a proven track record having worked my up the hierarchy of the scaffold squad , labourer , improver , fixer .leading hand . Climbing the ladder because I had earned the respect of my peers and not because I'd bought myself a few tickets .
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Might have been a bit harsh mate, but you gotta give the bloke a chance, one of my labourers did the course with him and said he was a good lad.... obviously you would'nt let him loose on a job, but under supervision he may be an ok scaff one day.....
 
Podger said:
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Deb very surprised at this comment , you are a supervisor/inspector would you let this guy loose with a set of spanners !!! Events last week have had serious impact on the site where I work at the minute raising issues on training and competence , there are even whispers of impending arrests within the management structure, its people like you and me who are putting our signatures to documentation which could have serious ramifications in the event of a serious accident .

Jb78 bit of bromance going on ? Totally disagree Wass1985 didn't come on to this forum looking for advice he came on here to announce to the scaffold community that he had arrived and was that he was paying for himself , had the CITB stuck rigidly to pre course criteria which states a minimum of six months industry experience he would not have been accepted as course candidate. In the early part of this thread the majority of the posts advised Wass1985 to get some experience as a labourer before going down the part 1 route and now by his own admission considers himself one step above a labourer ! A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, he now has ticket to say he is competent to work at height and erect/dismantle scaffolds well not in my opinion !

Wass1985, I may be a fat old tosser but I don't have justify myself to you , the position
I have within this industry is founded on a proven track record having worked my up the hierarchy of the scaffold squad , labourer , improver , fixer .leading hand . Climbing the ladder because I had earned the respect of my peers and not because I'd bought myself a few tickets .
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I stated that I've laboured for scaffolders before incase it slipped your memory, I've never said im one step above a labourer, after paying for the part 1 myself I would be an idiot if I didn't try and make an impression. I don't think you understand the game you've been in all these years as part 1 still have to be supervised by a qualified scaffolder!!!
 
Sad state of affairs.

The lad has tried to make a new step to get a job.

The system is at fault.

No one should be able to take their part 1 until they can prove they can complete what's on the course.

The course is not strict enough if you can attend & pass with limited experience.

Yes part 1 has to be supervised but in today's market if you are on a large site under pressure your part 2 scaffolder will be out of site for most your working day. As a part 1 you are expected to work with instruction. God help you if you do get work through an agency then you would be in trouble.

The whole training system needs an over haul top to bottom.

Ragscaff
 
You can't pretend to be something your not, I'm a beginner who's laboured on and off on the railways. I don't know it all and never will, I do know I'm a hard worker who's willing to learn, funnily enough by the looks of it agencies are looking my best bet at the minute as there's no work anywhere
 
Wass1985 said:
You can't pretend to be something your not, I'm a beginner who's laboured on and off on the railways. I don't know it all and never will, I do know I'm a hard worker who's willing to learn, funnily enough by the looks of it agencies are looking my best bet at the minute as there's no work anywhere
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Just be careful which one you go with as they get paid the same for bodies on site no matter what experience you have they will charge you out as a part 1 & on most sites you will be expected to work on your own sometimes not just as a labourer.

Ragscaff
 
ragscaff said:
Just be careful which one you go with as they get paid the same for bodies on site no matter what experience you have they will charge you out as a part 1 & on most sites you will be expected to work on your own sometimes not just as a labourer.

Ragscaff
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I'm not sure but I think that part 1's must be supervised, I know it won't always work like that on site
 
oh my god nearly a week gone by now thought you would be a manager by now wass1985!! lol
 
liverscaff74 said:
oh my god nearly a week gone by now thought you would be a manager by now wass1985!! lol
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FFS he can have my job ! Apparently a helmet who spends too much time talking when he should be listening reckons I don't know the game !
 
this forum is a joke, or most of the lads onit are, i always thort this forum was to help eachother out an give advice? i soppose u hav all given advice some helpful, some not, but why shoot the lad down before hes even started! its a good job every scaff in the world arent like half of u lot other wise scaffolders would be now extinct! he gotta start somewhere! hes even said he more than happy 2 start out as a labourer, him having his part1 is just an added bonus! an like he says would giv him that little bit more of a chance of getting a start! whats up wi u f uckin people! he should be getting praised for what hes done!
 
Podger said:
FFS he can have my job ! Apparently a helmet who spends too much time talking when he should be listening reckons I don't know the game !
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I don't want to listen to ********* like you, who try and put people down without even knowing them. I'm sure if we met you could show me what your made of, chances are helmet your all talk!

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tom55 said:
this forum is a joke, or most of the lads onit are, i always thort this forum was to help eachother out an give advice? i soppose u hav all given advice some helpful, some not, but why shoot the lad down before hes even started! its a good job every scaff in the world arent like half of u lot other wise scaffolders would be now extinct! he gotta start somewhere! hes even said he more than happy 2 start out as a labourer, him having his part1 is just an added bonus! an like he says would giv him that little bit more of a chance of getting a start! whats up wi u f uckin people! he should be getting praised for what hes done!
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Cheers mate ;) tossers like todger choose to ignore my intentions
 
Fook me, you haven't even got a job yet n look at the **** that's already been stired up. Everyone knows that what happens on site is usually not what it says in the book, you may think you will be getting supervised all the time but that's not how it works on most sites, espesialy under the current climate. If you get a job and get paid part 1 money then you will be expected todo part1 jobs and have atleast 6 month experiance. I think it's good that you are trying to make things work for yourself and do think that the industry needs more new lads but everyone should start at the bottom. You seem to have gone against most of the advise given earlyer in this thread and tryed to fast track your way up the ladder.
 
Fook me do you read what I post, I stated that I expect to start from the bottom. What in your eyes is part 1 work?
 
no bromance podger/todger , just dont like seein ******* like u try and tell someone what he can /cant do , **** YOU , i would nt mind a fight with some people on this site, maybe we can get an underground scaff fight club going , i say it again scaffoldin might be a hard job , but lts not molecular biology , some people here seem to think its so complicated , well im sorry its not.
 
Sod what lads say on here about going into scaffolding you seem to me you've made your mind up so go for it...... To many lads on here that judge far to much this site is ment to be standing together sharing things we know and advice ect ect......
So good luck fella hope you get to were you won't to be in our trade.
 
are u fuckin havin a laugh , because someone gets a part 1 instead of labourin for years, hes fast trackin himself , chances are he'll spend years on the ground anyway, part 1 or not , ive seen plenty part 2's who are barely off the ground , this conversation is a bit of a joke now , im sayin **** all else
 
Shut up stupid let the lad go for it who cares what hes doing he's trying in my eyes that's determination he came on here looking for advice not a judgement so as fella trades men we should advice him not rip him apart think about it. At the end of the day he might not like it and not carry on but at leased let the lad try !!!!! WITH OUT JUDEMENT
 
Midge said:
Shut up stupid let the lad go for it who cares what hes doing he's trying in my eyes that's determination he came on here looking for advice not a judgement so as fella trades men we should advice him not rip him apart think about it. At the end of the day he might not like it and not carry on but at leased let the lad try !!!!! WITH OUT JUDEMENT
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He wasn't replying to you, fook me it's like the ok corral on here, my phones bleeping like a mother fooka!!
 
Well sounds to me you need to get the silly post deleted then ! And go about your buisness
As really your not a scaffolder yet and got a lot of learning to do and as you see this is a forum for scaffolders......
 
Midge said:
Sod what lads say on here about going into scaffolding you seem to me you've made your mind up so go for it...... To many lads on here that judge far to much this site is ment to be standing together sharing things we know and advice ect ect......
So good luck fella hope you get to were you won't to be in our trade.
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Get him a start on a blue book with you Midge mate it will be a blast with all his endearing qualities the lads will love him !
 
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