robert hurst response by sms quote

SF Admin said:
At the end of the day, this is a very difficult situation to manage. When I told everyone that they should be prepared to back their comments up a few months ago, people complained that they had a right to free speech and that the forum should help to expose bad organisations.

On the other hand some negative comments could simply be down to personal grudges which could harm generally well run businesses who contribute positively to the industry.

Maybe it is time for agencies to stop posting on the forum as all of the problems seem to revolve around them, however these kind of situations will arise on every forum / community site on the Internet.

A blanket ban might not be fair as there are quite a few agencies who post on here without any problems.
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I think if you ban agencies and peoples personal grudges and the slagging off of companies then you have not got much of a website have you. It could be nicknamed the scaffolders (moan) forum.
 
Trouble with working for a agency is you get paid 3rd hand,the company,agency,then you,also with the company having to pay over the odds for short term labour they treat the agency lads like *****(just witnessed this on the olympics)i was direct and the agency lads where tret like mushrooms.the agencys i've worked for in the past that paid me ok were,atr,and octain,the **** ones were cpn(darren nobbs)and saggitarius,both robbing cunts.other members may differ!

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If you paid the lads correctly they would'nt have to come on here and put their grievences accross!
 
Nik - Robert Hurst Ltd said:
Well guys

It seems to me that more guys want the agencies off the forum than on it, so maybe all agencies should pull off now? and then as quoted in a previous post 3 months down the line when your looking for work we will not be posting potentual jobs.

I think I will contact a few other agencies and see what they think
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IM0 agencies need the forum more than the forum needs them, don't think banning them would serve any purpose either . Slav was employed by RHL he turned up on site did the hours
and the graft its RHLs responsibility to make sure he is payed correctly on time regardless of the clients financial situation.

The beauty of this forum is the right of reply , a reputable agency would have paid Slav as his contract is with them not the client ,
 
Wo wo wo Billy, don't tarnish us with the same brush please, we aint all bad!!!

I hope this has been resolved, if you need any advise give me a shout.

Cheers Lee
 
hi there to 1 and all

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anyone know who has work willing to travel have adv ticket
 
lee you just keep trying to run faster then me!! lol doing it done it!
 
Nik - Robert Hurst Ltd said:
Well guys

It seems to me that more guys want the agencies off the forum than on it, so maybe all agencies should pull off now? and then as quoted in a previous post 3 months down the line when your looking for work we will not be posting potentual jobs.

I think I will contact a few other agencies and see what they think
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Nik, Your company got bad press on this issue so to speak. Spitting the dummy out, threating to quit the forum and bring others with you, is not the way to handle this. First off you have got to stop trying to defend the indefensible. Instead act and think like a leader and realise that there is damage to repair. I made a suggestion in a previous post offering you a way out and in the process gain back the high ground, that was to make a gesture to Slav by way of bonus or such like, by all means post your offer on the forum and I'm sure your companies profile would be enhanced.
 
then be a man nik pay your men when payments due and then you have no hassle, and now you can suck your dummy:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
 
Nik,
Just pay the men, use some of your savings, you know you will get it back!!!!!!
 
you can all piss of now i am takeing my ball home, what a handbag
 
FSS -i had good times ,prestige projects and good memories.keep up good work.
 
johnnyb said:
Trouble with working for a agency is you get paid 3rd hand,the company,agency,then you,also with the company having to pay over the odds for short term labour they treat the agency lads like *****(just witnessed this on the olympics)i was direct and the agency lads where tret like mushrooms.the agencys i've worked for in the past that paid me ok were,atr,and octain,the **** ones were cpn(darren nobbs)and saggitarius,both robbing cunts.other members may differ!

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If you paid the lads correctly they would'nt have to come on here and put their grievences accross!
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had 3 months
with atr brenden was running things no problem money there every week as with ash employment services no problems.
 
i also did some work for rhl a few month ago and had to wait almost a week for my last weeks wages absolute piss take i said to andy at that the time and i will say it again they employ the men so they should pay them,their money issues is not our problem,i will never work for an agency again after the wages issues from rhl and being promised 5 weeks work and only getting 3 days work from trillium ended up shelling out more in digs etc than i picked up
 
as i have always said they take the piss not just this agency but others as well they say we are waiting for payment, who gives a **** your working for them not the scaffold comperny, i tryed to warn you all before, i hope this open your eyes most of them agencys are just users and try and get away with it more with other scaffs
 
superscaff75 said:
in my opinion this part of the forum needs some basic rules and moderating , it is far too easy to just pop up and post stuff slagging agencies off, companies off etc

although i fully agree that a man should get rates he is promised, paid on day agreed etc etc sometimes things just dont always work out as everyone involved expected.

this is first time robert hurst as far as im aware has had a bad review, yet is almost being hounded off the forum .

also unless some of you have actually been involved with management type positions you dont know exactly what it is like constantly chasing men, chasing money, broken promises about payment, companies going bankrupt

even some of the best credit search tools around sometimes get it wrong, and some of the biggest and the best companies get hands burnt or in fact fold on you.

but that is just part of being in management what im trying to say is this

sometimes **** HAPPENS and there is nothing you can do about it immediately but can only sort it as quickly as possible for all concerned.

there are good and bad employers out there and we should be doing more to help everybody on here sort the good from the bad, not chasing every company that has one cock up and allowing everyone on here who knows **** all about the situation to put the boot in.

we need to try and sort something like a league table where all thumbs up are counted along with all thumbs down and the company with most thumbs up go to top of league and most thumbs down to bottom of league and if too many thumbs down you will be politely told you are not welcome to advertise employment on the forum no more.

and only the people involved in disputes or employment by them companies can give a thumbs up or down
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The simple facts are,

1. RHL employed scaffolders to erect/dismantle scaffolding at an agreed rate to be paid on an agreed date.

2. RHL failed to make payment on the agreed date.

3. Nik Cusden RHL UK Divisional Manager, Construction and Engineering used this forum to blame his colleague for the situation.

4. As RHL's UK Divisional Manager, Nik Cusdon took the executive decision not to pay Slav and the other guys on time and make them wait way past the agreed date for payment, even though he openly admits one of his own staff are at fault.

5. While members of this forum were still waiting for their money RHL continued to advertise on here.


I understand that in today's economic climate cash flow can often be a problem, but why didn't RHL front the money as any decent company would?

Would they have been paid if they were not sharing their plight with this forum?

I have in the past had people working for me and had to pay them before I get paid and so does almost every scaffolding company out there.


Divisional Manager eh?

Well start managing.


I am only bringing this up again because I can't reply to closed thread "Self employed"
 
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SWIFTY said:
The simple facts are,

1. RHL employed scaffolders to erect/dismantle scaffolding at an agreed rate to be paid on an agreed date.

2. RHL failed to make payment on the agreed date.

3. Nik Cusden RHL UK Divisional Manager, Construction and Engineering used this forum to blame his colleague for the situation.

4. As RHL's UK Divisional Manager, Nik Cusdon took the executive decision not to pay Slav and the other guys on time and make them wait way past the agreed date for payment, even though he openly admits one of his own staff are at fault.

5. While members of this forum were still waiting for their money RHL continued to advertise on here.


I understand that in today's economic climate cash flow can often be a problem, but why didn't RHL front the money as any decent company would?

Would they have been paid if they were not sharing their plight with this forum?

I have in the past had people working for me and had to pay them before I get paid and so does almost every scaffolding company out there.


Divisional Manager eh?

Well start managing.


I am only bringing this up again because I can't reply to closed thread "Self employed"
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Rumour has it that Hello! Magazine are featuring a 12 page exclusive interview with Slav80 in their next publication entitled "How I took on The Robert Hurst Agency......and won!"

Apparently it's not out for another 8 weeks though....
 
Raymond 1969 said:
I think that slav 80 is the only one that can complain on here,lets not knock ROBERT HURST about whats gone on.Robert Hurst seems to be a good paying agency on here and send good jobs our way.Slav 80 have you been in contact with the scaffolding company that went through Robert Hurst Agency i would like to know why they havent paid them,its just a thought.If everyone gets paid then lets have some feedback on that and not just leave the story unfinished.Right im going to shut the fcuk up now ;-)
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**** off you nosy ****

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Raymond 1969 said:
Well there we have it Slav has been told he is going to get paid and good for him he deserves it.So let this be a lesson to all
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******* hell who are you but a guest just guest off and keep your thoughts to yourself
 
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