Rectifying Misconceptions about TRAD

This incident never happened this week . It happened the same week that we were ,refused admission to NASC for not having enough direct labour . Please read the post before commenting on it !! My point is that no matter what the company , you are only as good as the guy that is doing that particular job . If he is bombing gear into a skip whilst working alone in the middle of a busy high street in London then it is not a good advert . Especially given the size and reputation of this company .
 
You cannot knock Trad for coming onto the forum and offering a response. most companies would of ignored it and hoped it went away. They've made a mistake and I'm certain the Supervisors and scaffolders will have copped some flack for it. We can argue about the merit of NASC and non NASC companies all day but the basis of this thread was a Trad f-up for which they've owned up and are seeking to rectify.
They are now a forum sponsor so have a right like we all do to blow their own trumpet if they want. They also post on here looking for scaffolders, which helps keep scaffs in work.....a good thing for our industry.
 
Are they nasc the ones who demand everyone has a Mickey Mouse card
I mean cisrs card?
And if so why can someone who couldn't scaffold a dolls house get a ticket?
 
Superblue72 said:
This incident never happened this week . It happened the same week that we were ,refused admission to NASC for not having enough direct labour . Please read the post before commenting on it !! My point is that no matter what the company , you are only as good as the guy that is doing that particular job . If he is bombing gear into a skip whilst working alone in the middle of a busy high street in London then it is not a good advert . Especially given the size and reputation of this company .
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Thank you but we would not agree,all companies employ a whole range of men with varying capabilities and it is our responsibility as Scaffolding Contractors to know this,whoever the man was in question it was undoubtedly the fault of the Management at the time for allowing him to work on his own and therefore by association condoning the manner in which he had to work,in most instances all incidents,accidents or examples of bad practice are brought about by insufficient or poor planning of the work of to be undertaken in the 1st place irrespective of the size of the Contract !

TRAD works in many sectors for a whole range of Clients some of whom have very high standards relating to Health and Safety and many who do not and labour allocated historically have generally adopted the general approach of the Contractor on the project in relation to all matters relative to Health and Safety,some good some bad.

TRADs own bespoke behavioural management programme " Play It Safe " seeks as one of its main objectives to ensure that our labour irrespective of what Clients Project they are working on that they work to our five Key Safety Behaviours and in addition NOT TO work unsafely if the Main Contractor does not maintain a safe environment,you can find out more about Play It Safe should you wish to by viewing the section on our website Trad Group

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southernpoofter said:
Ffs wots this an "i luv trad thread"

Reguardless of how many men or boys or supervisors you employ - if anything that makes the situation worse. Once youve done with patting yourself on the back just lift ur head a little higher & take it on the chin....cos however much spin u put on it...the mistake was still made & on a street job in town......yes we all make mistakes, & yes we can all cut corners.
But as one of the big boys & founding members of the nasc you should start practicing wot u preach.....as a nasc mber you are allways condeming the smaller firms for non complieancy & useng this as an excuse to hoover up all the work. The fact you got caught out thankfully on aforum rather than joe public or hse is a miracle in itself.
You should be setting the standards not whinein about your own inepitude for one of your own supervisors not pickin it up.
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Good morning just for the avoidance of all doubt we are not in "to spin " to use your own words our preferred approach is and always has been honest and transparent ! on the other issue TRAD is as you have stated long standing members of the NASC and we actively participate in at present the Health and Safety Committee as well as chairing the Hire and Sales Manufacturers Committee and one of our Directors serves on the Council so I think we are best placed to have a more considered view of the NASC in 2013.

I will compose a separate post in relation to the NASC but can assure you that it does not and we definitely do not as TRAD condemn other Scaffolding Companies particularly when many of them are our Clients ! this would be stupid business would you not agree ? and in any event it is not a view that we hold,some Member Companies of the NASC may do this but they are entitled to free speech but do not speak on behalf of the NASC itself.

There are many reputable Scaffolding Contractors of varying sizes that are not presently in the NASC but they run very good and safe Companies,some of the larger and well known ones may argue that they can transcend the requirement by Main Contractors or other Large Clients to be members but for the smaller,less well known or new Companies Membership can provide real and tangible benefits as they are able to demonstrate compliance with the NASC Audit that precedes acceptance.

The larger Companies however do miss an opportunity to participate in shaping and improving our Industry as a whole.
 
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Maybe you can bring up at the next nasc
Meeting why most firms demand cisrs cards but are unwilling to train
Or take on blokes without cards and train them
I know trad do
But they rarely touch a scaffold without a card
 
Thank you,we will raise this issue with Alan Lilley who chairs the NASC Audit Committee at the earliest opportunity and come back to you.
 
So what is it actually like to work on trad,the company i work for is shuttimg down at the end of july and im thinking of trying trads?!?!?!?
 
Gary200481 said:
So what is it actually like to work on trad,the company i work for is shuttimg down at the end of july and im thinking of trying trads?!?!?!?
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Afternoon Gary.
Most of our men have been with us for over 10 years and I think they would agree we pay good rates for the right people. We try to consider ourselves as a service to the scaffolders so that they can get on with the job and we always pay on time and look to provide the best equipment, safest environment etc. I know this sounds bias but it is as we see it.
 
Havespannerwilltravel said:
I for one applaud Trad's decision to become a forum sponsor.
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I also would like to applaud TRAD in taking the time and effort to post here.
Other companies should follow their example and come to the Forum.

ESPECIALLY under their own name.
Takes balls to do that, as i well know. :cool:

Firms will get stick, ofcourse... because this Forum has a few pricks that like to troll, rather then then post valid comments/opinions, but there are alot of decent, hardworking blokes here who DO indeed care about the trade that puts food on our tables.

Hopefully this will open the doors for a Scaffolders Forum to have more input from Scaffolding Firms. :)
 
Just because i think Des Moore is a t.wat - which i STILL think he is, but that dont mean i cant respect their decision to come here and argue their case, does it?
 
3 times times on 3 different projects, over almost 10 years they ****** me over Fred.
Never again.
 
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