Rectifying Misconceptions about TRAD

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TRAD RECTIFYING MISCONCEPTIONS

  • TRAD Scaffolding employs approximately 250 people of which 180 are Scaffolders Trainees and Labourers.
  • 56% have been with us 10 years or more
  • 30% over two years or more
  • 14% New Starters
  • Our average pay rates for proven Advanced and Basic Scaffolders who have demonstrated and proved reliability and efficiency as opposed to just a CISRS grading are competitive and in many instances are significantly above the industry average.
  • During any one calendar year we invest £1200 per head on training our scaffolding workforce.
  • 10% of our scaffolding workforce are Apprentices at any one time.
  • 80% of our 20 strong Contracting Staff Management from Directors to Supervisors are Ex TRAD Scaffolders, who have all been trained and promoted from the tools.
  • Our ratio of Advanced and Basic Scaffolders is 10% above the threshold required by the NASC, our target is 20% above the threshold.
 
The 2 blokes I was with were brilliant it was just the supervisor I didn't reckon much set up was good enough tho def worse firms about
 
Get out of the s/e and come north move into industrial please
you sound like sgb were once;)
 
Im thinking bout going back north to edinburgh, craigmiler. my old stomping ground in my younger years. is there much going on in glasgee and the burgh happy?.
 
Ffs wots this an "i luv trad thread"

Reguardless of how many men or boys or supervisors you employ - if anything that makes the situation worse. Once youve done with patting yourself on the back just lift ur head a little higher & take it on the chin....cos however much spin u put on it...the mistake was still made & on a street job in town......yes we all make mistakes, & yes we can all cut corners.
But as one of the big boys & founding members of the nasc you should start practicing wot u preach.....as a nasc mber you are allways condeming the smaller firms for non complieancy & useng this as an excuse to hoover up all the work. The fact you got caught out thankfully on aforum rather than joe public or hse is a miracle in itself.
You should be setting the standards not whinein about your own inepitude for one of your own supervisors not pickin it up.
 
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SP it was in my opinion a small mistake for which they have come on the forum and admitted. For a company to defend themselves on this lions den of a forum took some balls and the response was correct, satisfying most people.
The standard of street work in London is shockingly bad and 90% of it is down to the small non NASC members. Drive down any street in London and you'll see jobs on shop fronts and house fronts with single handrails, not tied properly, no protection around ladders and access points. I've forgotten the amount of times I've seen temporary roofs in London with the beams sagging in the middle .. I could go on forever.
I think Trad have acted professionally and responded well to this.., and before you ask, I have never worked for them and I have no ties with them, in fact they are a big competitor of ours, but credit where credit is due....
 
so dicanio 2006 all small companies tha are not nasc are w**k scaffolders
 
pez27 said:
so dicanio 2006 all small companies tha are not nasc are w**k scaffolders
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I disagree.
Before moving to bonnae weee Scotland i worked for a Firm in London.
A so-called founding member of the NASC... and they were AWFUL, more amateurish and dangerous then any small Firm ive worked for.

NASC is made for the sole purpose to promote themselves and other members to obtain more/better paying work under the false assumption that they work to a higher quality and better safety standards than non-members.

Some NASC members, from what ive experienced, dont.
Yet they are still members.

In short:
Its an exclusive members only club.
Pay the fee, use the little logo and declare how great your Firm is - even if its not.
 
well said Jason gibbs nasc if you ask me is a load of bulls**h anyway
 
There are good and bad NASC and non NASC members full stop. Excellent post Jason.
 
I had a company in UK for 12 years . We tried to get NASC but couldn't get accredited due to the ratio of subbies to direct employed lads . The week we were turned down i was driving through Wimbledon and witnessed a Trad Scaffolder on a Trad scaffold , working alone , bombing 5ft tubes and fittings into a skip that was sat in the main road . There were people walking under the scaffold and cars driving past the skip . As Gibbs says , a members club .
 
Good Morning,the thread that you have responded to has no connection whatsoever with the incident you refer to,this particular post had been planned for some weeks previously and was to coincide with the two placements that we have been given as new Sponsors of the Forum,we understand these will be live imminently and one of them provides a constant reminder of our Near Miss Reporting line number,It is not and never has been our intention to as you say " pat ourselves on the back " merely to report factual statistics so we apologise if you believe we have mislead you or other Forum Members in general.

In specific relation to the" TRAD Clown post" where we to have wished to make the matter as low key as possible and not have been seen to have been "caught out " to use your words then we would not have responded in the manner that we did ! if anything the opposite has applied in that far more members of the Forum and their workmates/colleagues are aware of this near miss than otherwise would have been had we of remained silent "would you not agree ?

We seek to be as transparent as possible in our reporting of accidents and near misses and we publish our performance in this regard every Month on the Play It Safe section of our website,you will see that this fluctuates down as well as up ! how else can you improve if you are not honest with yourself on your own performance ?
 
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If you read my post , i refer to an incident which i saw in Wimbledon . I did not once quote the words "pat yourselves on the back ".
I was trying to get across the point that there are smaller companies out there that really do deserve to be NASC accredited but cant get over that hurdle because of formalities when clearly there are much larger companies that are breaking health and safety rules that are given accreditation in the blink of an eye . That is unless it is ok for a scaffolder to be working alone and bombing tube and fittings from 5 metres into a skip on a main road ????? Answers on a postcard ....
 
Superblue72 said:
If you read my post , i refer to an incident which i saw in Wimbledon . I did not once quote the words "pat yourselves on the back ".
I was trying to get across the point that there are smaller companies out there that really do deserve to be NASC accredited but cant get over that hurdle because of formalities when clearly there are much larger companies that are breaking health and safety rules that are given accreditation in the blink of an eye . That is unless it is ok for a scaffolder to be working alone and bombing tube and fittings from 5 metres into a skip on a main road ????? Answers on a postcard ....
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Our apologies,this was not in response to your post,it was in relation to a previous post by " Southern Poofter " we will obviously investigate what you have witnessed this week in Wimbledon and come back to you as a matter of courtesy with our findings but thank you in the interim for bringing the matter to our attention,it would assist us if you would be so kind as to provide us with the name of the Road in which you saw this as we have a number of Projects in this area.
 
Even better if you line the skip with Somalians.
Stops the skip getting damaged. :D
 
southernpoofter said:
Ffs wots this an "i luv trad thread"

Reguardless of how many men or boys or supervisors you employ - if anything that makes the situation worse. Once youve done with patting yourself on the back just lift ur head a little higher & take it on the chin....cos however much spin u put on it...the mistake was still made & on a street job in town......yes we all make mistakes, & yes we can all cut corners.
But as one of the big boys & founding members of the nasc you should start practicing wot u preach.....as a nasc mber you are allways condeming the smaller firms for non complieancy & useng this as an excuse to hoover up all the work. The fact you got caught out thankfully on aforum rather than joe public or hse is a miracle in itself.
You should be setting the standards not whinein about your own inepitude for one of your own supervisors not pickin it up.
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As this post is titled 'Rectifying misconceptions about TRAD' I would like to point out that TRAD actually joined the NASC in the mid 90's as I remember Des Moore's Formal introduction to the annual general meeting representing the newley joined company. The NASC was formed some 5 decades earlier and had a very limited membership for many years.
 
so dicanio 2006 all small companies tha are not nasc are w**k scaffolders

Did I say all small non NASC companies are ****? I was referring to the standard of street work in London and who the main culprits are when putting up sh!t work. Small companies... I was a small company once, had one lorry and a big debt but still strived to put up decent jobs....
Yes we are now NASC members and I agree there are member companies out there that are not whiter than white.. I've seen the jobs with my own eyes.
 
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on for Lyndon at the mo thay big them self up and have part 1 running sites:laugh:
 
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