benjo0211
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Which is the best union to be with I was with ucatt about 7 years ago but not been in one for a while any recommendations??
Which Union?
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No of them, they're all w*nkers. I've sat in loads of seminars listening to them bleeting on about the benefits of joining. Soon as you actually need them they don't want to know. If you work hard enough for a decent firm you shouldn't need someone else to fight your corner for you. If your going off shore or work in a power station you probably have to join though, don't know that , but they all seem a bit militant in those industries from what I've seen.
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No wonder the industries the state it's in with W*****s like you ya fu**in half wit !!!!!
I take it from your response you're one of those people who would need a Union to fight your corner then? . I've been in two unions, once in the mid 1980's once in the mid 1990's both took my money, both let me down. Sorry if that makes me a w"nker and a fu**in half wit in your book, but to be honest looking at your join date on the forum and your amount of posts, who really cares what you think Jr member , you've probably got a junior member too !!!!
I agree with Russ.
Personally, I think trade unions are just a bunch of champagne socialists, offering poor value for money to the working classes, who are basically paying for the unions to shore-up the spoilt public sector. Free resources like ACAS are far superior when in need of professional help in a dispute.
Personally, I think trade unions are just a bunch of champagne socialists, offering poor value for money to the working classes, who are basically paying for the unions to shore-up the spoilt public sector. Free resources like ACAS are far superior when in need of professional help in a dispute.
wrm84
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I've had a tribunal & and claim for an industrial accident both of which I won
, But the only contribution the union made was paying the legal fees. I did all the leg work in both cases. Apart from that there **** and contributed to the decline of workers rights! And will only show there support for lads on a picket line if the tv cameras show up, then the union show there faces. Corrupt *****. And anyone want to disagree like the post above meh.
, But the only contribution the union made was paying the legal fees. I did all the leg work in both cases. Apart from that there **** and contributed to the decline of workers rights! And will only show there support for lads on a picket line if the tv cameras show up, then the union show there faces. Corrupt *****. And anyone want to disagree like the post above meh.
benjo0211
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You see I thought like that but a few lads I've spoke to highly recommend em. And as for you britscaff don't get cocky over a computer you moron
What A Lot Of Pish, Iv Been A Member Of Ucatt For Thirty Odd Years, And Being 100% Honest They Have Never Done Me A Bad Deal, Without Trade Unions There Wopuld Be No Holiday Pay , Sick Pay Or Health And Safety Legislation And For Scaffolders To Say Anything Else Really Pisses Me Off, To Think That Men Who Do The Same Job As Me Think Like That Says It All About The North South Divide, Being A Member Of A Trade Union Means That You Think About Others Not Just Yourself Its About Caring About Your And Others Conditions, Its Not About Going Out On Strike (I Have Never Ever Thought About Going Out On Strike) But I Would Never Cross Any Picket Line Either. So Its Agree To Disagree Folks Because I Will Never Be Persuaded Otherwise.
marra watson
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do not cross the picket line and if your not a member fuk off yam and dont come back getting on off other lads backs who have gone with out food to mouth to get the wages conditions we have to day is bang out of order. me street scaff been a member of the union about 2 or 3 year wont need them on the street but its a contribution in sector i will be going in to ie offshore industrial and if your on them jobs and not in a union like i say fek off home and dont come back in my eyes
Fair play for your views, mate.
Just a question though; why do you need to be in a union to think about the welfare of others and taking a stance on poor conditions?
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That's hardly democracy, Marra.
What about a mans right to work?
marra watson
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its ok thinking about it but thinking isnt going to make it happen 1 man can try and will faill 100's pr 1,000's may susceed that my firedn is the union
And then they get pissed-off with greedy workers and import cheap, foreign labour to drive down wages and working conditions?
Welcome to the last labour government.
marra watson
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if a man sits there on the same job as me under the same conditions as me on blue book rates etc and dosent pay to a union he my firend will not be sitting with me and he my friend is a scabb. a mans right to work is there if and when eh gets the jobs that have benifits because of trade unions then he needs to be joining and paying in for the next generation like the generation b4 us thats my veiw on it some may agree some may not but chances are the lads up there like your sell phil wont nor will the gaffers
Phil, I Dont Have To Be In A Union To Think About Others, But I Really Object To Being Told Being In A Union Is A Waste Of Time And They Dont Do Anything For Me And They Are All Champagne Socialists, If It Wasnt For The Trade Union Movement We Would Have No Benefits Whatsoever, Do You Or Anyone Else For That Matter Think For Two Minutes That Bosses Wanted To Give Us (The Workers You Know Them And Us Scenario) Any Benefits At All ? Seriously Do You?
benjo0211
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Didn't realise people had such strong views
marra watson
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scabb on the picket lines. some 1 who goes to work to earn money while other are losing money and have paid in to a union fighting for better pay and conditions and contributors nothing
scabb who works the blue book rates etc which the said members above have paid in to and fought for and contributes nothing ~same as these foreigners on our benifit system. they havent paid in so why should they get out look at it that way
thats just my view on it
Here is a scenario I've seen many times.
You are working in the offshore industry, and are a fully paid up union member and some of your colleagues on your shift are all working 3 weeks on and 1 off when there are competent men struggling to get a week offshore/sat in the house/paid off. These Scaffolders that are at home are employed by the same company as yourself, and you may even know them.
What choice would you make ?
Just refuse, thank them for the offer and tell them you will see them next trip, or....would you accept the offer of a 3 weeker ( an extra week on your 2 week trip organised while offshore ) knowing there are lads at home ?
If you were to accept then it seems a little hypocritical in my opinion.
You are working in the offshore industry, and are a fully paid up union member and some of your colleagues on your shift are all working 3 weeks on and 1 off when there are competent men struggling to get a week offshore/sat in the house/paid off. These Scaffolders that are at home are employed by the same company as yourself, and you may even know them.
What choice would you make ?
Just refuse, thank them for the offer and tell them you will see them next trip, or....would you accept the offer of a 3 weeker ( an extra week on your 2 week trip organised while offshore ) knowing there are lads at home ?
If you were to accept then it seems a little hypocritical in my opinion.
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marra watson
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i tottally agree me bro does 3 weekers i cal him a scabb an all bang out of order he says if i didnt take it some 1 would . if that the case how the fuk did your get off ?