Scaffolders Study Group

As a relatively new member of this excellent forum, I find the commentaries and threads very informative and reassuring.

Obviously written from the heart in each instance and with great pride about a very underestimated and misunderstood skill and trade.

With regard to the Study Group, I will dig out any information that may be of assistance and hopefully make it available for reference and comment.

Tubular Steel Scaffolders have tremendous experience and knowledge about building and civil engineering disciplines. They are arguably the most qualified to become safety management specialists.

Scaffolders must never be underestimated or allow themselves to the underestimated by anyone! Stand your corner, firmly but fairly

Be safe Scaffs
 
Stumpy mate

Firstly, on behalf of the SSG, welcome.

Your post was spot on mate, i look forward to reading many more of your posts and possibly threads.

Regards
Paddy
 
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If anyone requires anything specific let me know and i will upload it if i have it
 
Some interesting stuff here XxIANxX and a lot of thought put into the forms

Would that there could be a universally acceptable set of templates for documenting safety management procedures and controls.

However, the construction and allied industries, particularly safety people with egos the size of the North Sea, would never allow that

It would appear there is ‘no one size fits all’!

Keep up the good work Ian


STUMPY
 
Safety People with ego's the size of the north sea!!!

Nice reply to Ians hard work there stumpy...but don't tar all of us old safety people, whilst I agree with the 'egos' bit of some of my health and safety collegues out there, we're not all like that. I am an ex scaffolder (still hold my advanced card and proud of it) turned sfaety consultant and try to help scaffolding companies against the constant bashing they get from construction and allied industry companies .... it some times seems they are the easy target, then again, some times they make themselves the easy target....but generally the good scaff companies seem to get a hard time of it. In todays work place, it does some times feel that the scaffs are over regulated and very much un appreciated for the highly skilled job they do.

Jules:)
 
Jules said:
Nice reply to Ians hard work there stumpy...but don't tar all of us old safety people, whilst I agree with the 'egos' bit of some of my health and safety collegues out there, we're not all like that. I am an ex scaffolder (still hold my advanced card and proud of it) turned sfaety consultant and try to help scaffolding companies against the constant bashing they get from construction and allied industry companies .... it some times seems they are the easy target, then again, some times they make themselves the easy target....but generally the good scaff companies seem to get a hard time of it. In todays work place, it does some times feel that the scaffs are over regulated and very much un appreciated for the highly skilled job they do.

Jules:)
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Absolutely agree Jules
 
Jules said:
Nice reply to Ians hard work there stumpy...but don't tar all of us old safety people, whilst I agree with the 'egos' bit of some of my health and safety collegues out there, we're not all like that. I am an ex scaffolder (still hold my advanced card and proud of it) turned sfaety consultant and try to help scaffolding companies against the constant bashing they get from construction and allied industry companies .... it some times seems they are the easy target, then again, some times they make themselves the easy target....but generally the good scaff companies seem to get a hard time of it. In todays work place, it does some times feel that the scaffs are over regulated and very much un appreciated for the highly skilled job they do.

Jules:)
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Always looking for H & S guys to help out on the SCCR.


Ragscaff
 
Thanks - If I can be of Help.......

Thanks Ragscaff - contact me through the forum if I can be of help with anything.
Jules
 
Agree with your views Jules,I have a similar work history with35 years scaffolding and less than 5years as H&S,
A lot of the lads don't understand what our remit is and take a hostile approach to us.
There is nothing I like better than inspecting a scaffold and writing in my report "A well constructed Structure with no apparent defects" or commenting to the lads on site "A nice job"
 
Jules

I applaud your achievements and wish you continued success.

The high profile safety people with egos do hog the headlines – usually negative and counterproductive headlines.

Good practical and realistic Safety Officers/Advisors/Practitioners are in my opinion a minority in terms of recognition and peer credibility (I often hear the description ‘dinosaur’ used) and I wouldn’t say I am over-educated!

I would advocate that more Scaffolders and other hands-on tradesmen/women should take up safety as a career option – then a practical, firm and credible approach to safety on site may be achieved

Nil Illegitimus Carborundum!

Stumpy
 
Hello Folks

I worked as tea-boy in a scaffolders yard after I retired at 60 from being a beaurocrat. I'm 83 now and well remember the jolly gang I worked with.

The geometry of your trade fascinated me. I shall be posting about Rhombic Dodecahedrons and the work of bees in building honeycombs.

Pete
 
The rhombic dodecahedron is a zonohedron. Its polyhedral dual is the cuboctahedron. The long diagonal of each face is exactly √2 times the length of the short diagonal, so that the acute angles on each face measure cos−1(1/3), or approximately 70.53°.

Interesting mate , enlighten me on the use within the scaffolding industry of a rhombic !!!

Are ya still doing a bit now in the yard or is you proper retired now
 
Scaffy

We never bothered a scaffold configuration as basic as that!!!
 
Thanks Scaffy, it will take me some time to use the site with ease. I'll be slow until I've worked out the variety of menus and panels. I am proper retired now, I left London and came to Swansea, five years ago.

I made myself a hobby of constructing geometric shapes out of table-tennis balls and quarter inch dowelling. I found Geomag, the toy with sticks and steel balls, no good for the root2and root3 distances. I'll upload some photos up of my constructs.

Table tennis balls and dowelling are cheap. I dyed my dowell sticks red, yellow and blue: The red ones are 2 inches and 4, 6, 8 and 10 inches etc. The yellow sticks are the same but lengthened (or shortened) by root2 and the blue by root3. I can make a cube with a central ball and 26 sticks. They go: reds to the six mid faces, blues to the eight corners and yellows to the 12 mid edges. I can build rhombic!s sitting inside Tetrahedrons and vice versa. A bit of spray painting in the garage makes them look good.

I'll study the site and send the pics.

Peter
 
Welcome peter, great to see a person your age still contributing to the enlightment of others.
 
look forward to it peter , where was you at prior to retirement
 
> where was you at prior to retirement

It was a small part of my life. A Birmingham company had a yard alongside the mainline railway at Southall. They stocked Lintels and Scaffold stuff. I spent my first winter (with the foreman and the forklift driver) cleaning up 6,000 rusty scaffold clips.

Peter
 
Peterroche said:
> where was you at prior to retirement

It was a small part of my life. A Birmingham company had a yard alongside the mainline railway at Southall. They stocked Lintels and Scaffold stuff. I spent my first winter (with the foreman and the forklift driver) cleaning up 6,000 rusty scaffold clips.

Peter
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Peter if you,ve still got the 6,000 rusty clips i,ll buy them off you. :)
 
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