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There is always a silver lining to having a non scaff supervisor.

Exactley Alistair,you'd get walked all over if you did'nt know your onions lol,the scaff's would have a field day,them tin bashers are a different kettle though,because everything's signed for, the firm are still getting their money so everyone's happy,away from them job's it's a different script;)
 
I see your point BF, but not all gaffers and supervisors came through the ranks. It's like everything else, we all have our opinions which is good but in all honesty, I have never really had an issue with a non scaffold gaffer although I do accept where I am at the moment any non scaffold gaffer probably would get torn to shreds.

The other way to look at it is , who really gives a fcuk. :nuts:
 
aom said:
I see your point BF, but not all gaffers and supervisors came through the ranks. It's like everything else, we all have our opinions which is good but in all honesty, I have never really had an issue with a non scaffold gaffer although I do accept where I am at the moment any non scaffold gaffer probably would get torn to shreds.

The other way to look at it is , who really gives a fcuk. :nuts:
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There's a big difference between a gaffer and a supervisor aom,a supervisor is with the scaffs daily telling them and allowing the scaffs input to best do the job,and he's understanding the job and it's problem's also he knows all the trick's and knows the job from the scaff's point of view,you would'nt get that with a non scaff supervisor,in my opinion;)
 
Havespannerwilltravel said:
A manager manages and a supervisor supervises. Theres a big difference.
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Like what? Does a supervisor need an advanced card to read a tool box talk, fill in the RAMS and count the hours? What about ordering material or ensuring the right labour is available? Anyone could do it.
 
A building site manager will usually have a degree or HNC, HND or BTEC.
I am not sure what your point is about ordering materials. I doubt if someone with no knowledge or experience in a particular field could order the correct materials. I certainly couldnt order food for a 5 star restaurant kitchen but I have been a diner in a few.
 
Most of the building site managers I have met have had no more training other than the obligatory SMSTS and a joinery back ground. As for ordering food for a 5 star restaurant, how about using last weeks order sheet as a guide if there has been no other significant changes.:idea:
 
lmk said:
Like what? Does a supervisor need an advanced card to read a tool box talk, fill in the RAMS and count the hours? What about ordering material or ensuring the right labour is available? Anyone could do it.
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With the greatest of respect lmk,i would'nt want anyone who was'nt qualified and trained in the trade their in, writing risk and method statements that could ultimately cause a death or serious injury,and neither i suspect would the insurance company:eek:
 
Imk From reading some of your posts it is quite clear you know fu.k all about scaffolding.
 
With equal respect, no insurance company would insert a proviso for all supervisors to be advanced scaffs just suitably trained and competent, hence the supervisors card.

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instructor said:
Imk From reading some of your posts it is quite clear you know fu.k all about scaffolding.
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As opposed to a an instructor who know's all.

Check back on some of your own posts.
 
lmk said:
Most of the building site managers I have met have had no more training other than the obligatory SMSTS and a joinery back ground. As for ordering food for a 5 star restaurant, how about using last weeks order sheet as a guide if there has been no other significant changes.:idea:
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It is a new restaurant.Could someone who is not an experienced chef order the right ingredients. Maybe we could use the order sheet from the gaff up the road and do the same grub.
Most of the building site managers I have dealt with have degrees.
 
instructor said:
I did not know you was a fan.
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I'm not but your seemingly infinite lack of knowledge does some times stand out.

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Havespannerwilltravel said:
It is a new restaurant.Could someone who is not an experienced chef order the right ingredients. Maybe we could use the order sheet from the gaff up the road and do the same grub.
Most of the building site managers I have dealt with have degrees.
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You didn't tell me it's new so yes we would obviously need to speak to the chef but there would be a few other things to consider as well unless the chef is going to do the bookings and decide how many tables we are going to have.

As I said, SMSTS or equivalent is about average.
 
Only 36 years in the game so my knowledge is not that great compare to your ****
 
You started it, to be honest I could supervise any trade or business, even scaffolding.
 
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