Oh no! Gutted...
Hilti pull the plug.
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Oh no! Gutted...
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southernpoofter
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Think thats the annoying thing fred....their reps never stopped selling them & hyping them up to scaffs...tbh like ive said on. A previous thread it wouldnt surprise me if hilti jumped into bed with the nasc to develope a new breed of iw that'll be complient with the new 2013 regs
timthumb
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Mmm another positive thought from the fantasmagorical rc22 ..... Be nice for a change !!
What new 2013 regs?
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southernpoofter
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Theres a new TG 20:13 rewrite in the process as we speak so that will be followed by an updated SG4:13 to stay current as version 10 will be outdated by the changes due in the TG guidence
marra watson
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******breaking news********
hilti managment are taking back all hired hilti to place this add on to thoses drills pardon the pun
hilti managment are taking back all hired hilti to place this add on to thoses drills pardon the pun
bigfish
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******breaking news********
hilti managment are taking back all hired hilti to place this add on to thoses drills pardon the pun
Feck me marra,you keep some strange item's in your toolbox
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TG20:13 is technical guidance, SG4:13 is safety guidance. Don't think either state if scaffold fiitings can be tightened and loosened using impact wrenches, swing over spanners, open enders, adjustable or fingers.
TG20 & SG4 have got nothing to do with each other.
TG20 is technical guidance for tube & fitting scaffolds, SG4 is safety guidance for preventing falls in scaffolding.
Currently there are 37 safety guidance documents, 17 technical guidance documents & 3 security guidance documents.
All documents are reviewed and updated every 5 years. Hence TG20:08 -13, SG4:05 -10 etc etc. The next SG4 document will be published in 2015.
None of the current NASC safety or technical documents have anything to do with the use of impact wrenches. The only documents that might have some sort of relation would be SG11-08 (Noise) & SG06-10 (manual handling)
So there!
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Good information there phil818.
So in theory SG11-08 will be updated in 2013 and SG06-10 in 2015?
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Correct.
marra watson
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feck me marra,you keep some strange item's in your toolbox
howd i know you would be first to jump on this marra ahahah
Flinty
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I don't like using it, but the phrase "Told you so" seems to suit Hilti quite well here :suspicious:
That's going to be a lot of returned IWs......
bigfish
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Coming to ebay soon.............
They are looking at it though Phil, as I have and the problems are vibration, noise and torque. Hilti pulling the plug has obviously nothing to do with a fit for purpose tool and everything to do with cash as they finally realised that scaffs with a power tool they didn't have to buy will rag it to death within a week, welcome to my fekin world Hilti.
On the subject of the IW in general though, I have been talking to a torque specialist, and yes I didn't know they existed either. He has been setting me straight on a whole host of issues regarding these tools and the required torque required. For a start, the main gripe for these tools is the fact that the hilti 90-95 nm wrench is far too heavy to hit 50nm regularly without over torquing. The torque industry have long since accepted best practice for this to be done accurately and regularly is to use a tool with a much higher torque setting so the required torque is within the mid range of the tool. In other words, a 50nm tool would be no where near strong enough for scaffolding and the current tools on the market are actually fit for purpose. I learned a lot more but waiting for further clarification before bringing it to the attention of others, but anyone wanting to take my IW off me better have done their home work as I am definitely doing mine.
On the subject of the IW in general though, I have been talking to a torque specialist, and yes I didn't know they existed either. He has been setting me straight on a whole host of issues regarding these tools and the required torque required. For a start, the main gripe for these tools is the fact that the hilti 90-95 nm wrench is far too heavy to hit 50nm regularly without over torquing. The torque industry have long since accepted best practice for this to be done accurately and regularly is to use a tool with a much higher torque setting so the required torque is within the mid range of the tool. In other words, a 50nm tool would be no where near strong enough for scaffolding and the current tools on the market are actually fit for purpose. I learned a lot more but waiting for further clarification before bringing it to the attention of others, but anyone wanting to take my IW off me better have done their home work as I am definitely doing mine.
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Good info phil - what i was trying to say but maybe not as concise as ur post that maybe in my cynical interpretation...the re-writes of either tg/sg docts or other saftey notices that it wouldnt surprise me if we found a new section/ rule announcing that only a certain brand of IW would be recommended for scaffold use .