If a flying shores a " piece of piss " why you asking questions mate ? there not too difficult, but not a piece of piss, if your not too sure, take along someone who has a good idea about shores,, not being funny mate, just giving advice...
Garry Adams
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I was on a McAlpine job last year, it was a total refurb of the second largest Granite Building in the World---the inerds were totaly ripped out leaving the Granite Faceades---all the shoreing including the Flying Shores were composed of Strong Back Structures---I asked the Structural Engineer why they used Strong Back in favour of Traditional T&F Shoring, he cited cheaper and quicker to erect...
Tufty
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flying shore
I'm with you Phil perhaps we should start the old thread up again on excuses from scaffolders? why would forget 2 inches every 20 foot for a flying shore(hog i seem to recall it was called) and jack tightening was always main contractor sounds like a bengal lancer to me!!
I'm with you Phil perhaps we should start the old thread up again on excuses from scaffolders? why would forget 2 inches every 20 foot for a flying shore(hog i seem to recall it was called) and jack tightening was always main contractor sounds like a bengal lancer to me!!
celticbhoy
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was that the collage garry?
Garry Adams
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La La La down the Glen camer McAlpines Men like a troop of ballet dancers 1 in 10 had served their time the rest were bengal Lancers La La La :nuts: PMSL
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CelticBhoy
Indeed it was, lasted 2 days
I was only there to look for the Master Masons Marks on the Granite
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CelticBhoy
Indeed it was, lasted 2 days
I was only there to look for the Master Masons Marks on the Granite
The adjacent walls that you want to shore are not your problem, they will be checked out by an architect or engineer, the flying shore will be designed and all you have to do is follow the drawing. The rest is down to your competency. A 20ft flying shore would'nt be a big deal.
celticbhoy
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goodwork garry hope you gave it to the mcalpine gang while you were there..........you must have ben like harrison ford in the search for the symbol lol.
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If you have a drawing erect it to that as the designer is covered by insurance that his scheme will support the designed loads, if you dont you could be liable if any problems occurred. Done loads in past found that usually rakered tubes and the adjustment on the jacks is sufficient to hold the span, but that depends on the width between buildings.
Use your temporary access to support it until its all in, then get it checked by the designer before stripping out your access. Good luck
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whos the daddy
a read someone said push it up 50mm,push the fkn thing till it looks like a rainbow swing like a gooden on all screw jacks at a continuous pace on all screwjacks, when the tube spreads on all ends you know ur there then drop ur scaffolding down on a equal bases.when you have lowered and the weight is off the tower but on it enough to hold it re check ur s.js give em a equal torque if they wont turn ur there bud,make sure you have a drawing bud:cheesy:
a read someone said push it up 50mm,push the fkn thing till it looks like a rainbow swing like a gooden on all screw jacks at a continuous pace on all screwjacks, when the tube spreads on all ends you know ur there then drop ur scaffolding down on a equal bases.when you have lowered and the weight is off the tower but on it enough to hold it re check ur s.js give em a equal torque if they wont turn ur there bud,make sure you have a drawing bud:cheesy:
manniewinaename
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Was it ever built?
Did everybody die when he took the temps out?
Will we ever see the photos?
I think not.....
Did everybody die when he took the temps out?
Will we ever see the photos?
I think not.....
Flying Shore
Always do a shore to the drawing, if you need to deviate for some reason, have the engineering issue new drawings and / or sign a declaration agreeing to the changes. DONT CUT CORNERS, not worth the aggro if something go's wrong.
Also, get the builder / engineering to sign off that the buildings you are shoring up approving they can actually take the pressure / weight of the shore. I have seen cracks appear in buildings because of the pressure.
Good luck, post a pic when compleated.
Always do a shore to the drawing, if you need to deviate for some reason, have the engineering issue new drawings and / or sign a declaration agreeing to the changes. DONT CUT CORNERS, not worth the aggro if something go's wrong.
Also, get the builder / engineering to sign off that the buildings you are shoring up approving they can actually take the pressure / weight of the shore. I have seen cracks appear in buildings because of the pressure.
Good luck, post a pic when compleated.
Alan Reade
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Flying Shores should be pre-cambered at an approximate rate of 1%.
The reason for the pre-camber is not to support the shore but to stop the shore sagging into the gap and coming away from the wall.
However; should your shore be over cambered it may have an adverse affect on the walls to be propped by pushing them in on themselves.
Always remember flying shores can be one way or two way restraints, which is yours?
The norm would be to needle the wall below the shore to carry the vertical dead weight of the shore into the wall without inducing horizontal forces into the structure being propped. Hand tighten the jacks to pinch out any horizontal movement, knock out the temps and retire gracefully to the cafe
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The reason for the pre-camber is not to support the shore but to stop the shore sagging into the gap and coming away from the wall.
However; should your shore be over cambered it may have an adverse affect on the walls to be propped by pushing them in on themselves.
Always remember flying shores can be one way or two way restraints, which is yours?
The norm would be to needle the wall below the shore to carry the vertical dead weight of the shore into the wall without inducing horizontal forces into the structure being propped. Hand tighten the jacks to pinch out any horizontal movement, knock out the temps and retire gracefully to the cafe
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Flying Shore - Alan
Good advise Alan, where are you from mate, your name rings a bell. I'm from Nth London started with GKN 1973, (Hammersmith Branch), Palmers, (Charlton) GB's Kings Cross, and the normal rounds chasing a dollar after that. What about your self, ??
Good advise Alan, where are you from mate, your name rings a bell. I'm from Nth London started with GKN 1973, (Hammersmith Branch), Palmers, (Charlton) GB's Kings Cross, and the normal rounds chasing a dollar after that. What about your self, ??
Alan Reade
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Hi Aussiebob
I started with GB's in June 1974 in Mitcham as an Engineer Moved up to Kings X in 1976 spent 26 years with them in total saw most Branches at some time. Left them in 1980 went to Bow.
In Dubai now for Westminster Gulf Operations and Engineering Manager for the GCC been here for just coming up 5 years.
I started with GB's in June 1974 in Mitcham as an Engineer Moved up to Kings X in 1976 spent 26 years with them in total saw most Branches at some time. Left them in 1980 went to Bow.
In Dubai now for Westminster Gulf Operations and Engineering Manager for the GCC been here for just coming up 5 years.