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Whats your views.........If you erect a scaffold that as been designed and have to reduce a percentage of the bay sizes due to site restraints would this need a re-design,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
No. You are actually increasing the load capacity. As long all bracing and ties are in

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No. You are actually increasing the load capacity as long as all the ties and bracing shown on the drawing are in.
 
I know however when inspecting the scaffold how do you know its erected to the design when it doesnt resemble what as been built??
 
Hi DS, If you are looking for a definitive answer, there are a few on here that could spell it out. I would say not as the drawing will say maximum standard spacing there will be no minimum. However, they do say the law is an ass and it would not surprise me if I am wrong.
 
well heres one for you when you have designed the scaffold showing the bays and ties, bracing this is then sent to clients temporary works checker. Once agreed you start erecting you have got to reduce bays as always, because as good as the scaffold design engineer is he draws the scaffold to make it fit and keep the bays looking good on paper. whhich dont suit site you reduce them as we have always taken the bay sizes on any design as maximum as you have already stated. H&S guy turns up looking at drawing and what is actually built explain that the bays are maximum on drawing. then says the ties are not as drawing say 200/300mm which this need re drawing and send back to the T/W checker to mske sure that the building can take the load from the scaffold where it is tied now. new steel 200/300mm difference its beyond me.
 
Is the h&s guy the executive or some jumped up little hitler that was bullied at school?
 
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arnt they all like that
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Well not all. I find the executive a bit more pragmatic in their approach especially tying in to steel, 200-300mm does not seem like a lot to me. However, if this guy is private his wife probably left him for a scaff.

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DS said:
well heres one for you when you have designed the scaffold showing the bays and ties, bracing this is then sent to clients temporary works checker. Once agreed you start erecting you have got to reduce bays as always, because as good as the scaffold design engineer is he draws the scaffold to make it fit and keep the bays looking good on paper. whhich dont suit site you reduce them as we have always taken the bay sizes on any design as maximum as you have already stated. H&S guy turns up looking at drawing and what is actually built explain that the bays are maximum on drawing. then says the ties are not as drawing say 200/300mm which this need re drawing and send back to the T/W checker to mske sure that the building can take the load from the scaffold where it is tied now. new steel 200/300mm difference its beyond me.
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If it's the same scaffold supporting the same amount of weight and the steel has a uniformed strength and you have the same amount of ties, where the hell is the problem.
 
it doesnt look like the drawing thats where the problem is
 
Hopefully one of the designers will explain but if your making it stronger I don't get it. Why does reducing the bay size increase the load on the building?
 
If it doesn't look like the drawing then it must have been erected wrong. Scaffolders are good at making it up as they go along. Lol
 
It's what we have been trained to do, problem solvers.
 
Its not always possible to build a job like the designher has drawn from his cozee office dirnking lots of warm cofee. We get lots of jobs were you cant put ties where the designer says because of windows etc

What we do is work as close as we can to the design and take photos of bits were we havent stuck to the design. We send these to the designer by email and he emails back saying yay or nay if it acceptible or not. We then put a copy of his email in the drawing file on site for when auditers and inspecters come

i have dealt with some right ar**hole inspecters but they are always happy when we do this, so you dont necesarily need the whole drawing doing again.

(there is 1 fella from liverpool whos name i cant say but who doesnt let you move 1 inch from the design, but even he is happy when we do this)
 
not so long ago drawings were very very rare,my goodness what did we do then????correct we got on and overcame the obstacles,spot on aom we were problem solvers mate,not now.
 
lol your gaffer can call me what he likes mate,i speak the truth though.dose that rankle??????what did we do before drawings??????well lol.
 
That might be a bit strong Dean, I prefer passionate about the industry we work in.
 
lol your gaffer can call me what he likes mate,but i speak the truth what did we do before the advent of drawings on near every job?????well lol.
 
cant get my head round that as the scaffold takes the load and not the building or is it a hanger ? is it sheeted ? this fecker dosnt no wot hes chatting about feckin hse
 
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