China Fitting Factory...

Garry Adams

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Iv just viewed the Images posted on the Forum of workers in a " China Fitting Factory "

Are we contributing to and condoning these appauling working conditions by placing purchuse Orders to these Manufacturers ???. OR is it out of sight out of mind...

Garry...
 
Someone is!our industry is awash with these inferior fittings and i fear it's only a matter of time before a major incident occurs as a result of poor quality fitting's,i bought some a couple of years ago from one of the big supliers,the one that sponsers thfc,and was'nt told that these were cheap rubbish from india(you can only imagine the state of the workshop)they were proper dangerous imo,some sort of quality control is needed on these imports:mad:
 
And theyve got BSEN standards stamped across em/ Who gives the nod to this rubbish.
 
All good replies---and yes perhaps NASC could throw some light on the long standing question of below par Quality Control Levels---

We, in the forfront of Scaffolding Operations have long recognised the HSEQF effects that these Couplers have on our Industry, why, therefore have others within the Regulatory and Administrative Government and Industrial Bodies not acknowledged the reduction in Quality.

Why go to the expence and time to set BS Standards when clearly they are not being applied to Imported Scaffolding Componants. Is this another deleriction of Duty of Care from the H&SE and and oversight from NASC ??? and their Members who issue licences to these Manufacturers ???

As the song goes la la la There are more questions that answers and the more we find out the less we know la la la...

Garry...
 
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PMSL nice one Ian---and ofcource your bang on the money---the answer is money talks every time ;)

la la la money talks , but it dont sing and dance and it dont walk la la la

EEEmmm now where did I put those manila envelopes :nuts:
 
PMSL nice one Ian---and ofcource your bang on the money---the answer is money talks every time ;)

la la la money talks , but it dont sing and dance and it dont walk la la la

EEEmmm now where did I put those manila envelopes :nuts:

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Are they the ones with the pictures of prostitutes and a certain person we cannot mention :D
 
I can imagine BIG MASSIVE bags of money being passed under tables as we speak.
The sad thing is, is that British companies (that spout Health and Safety all day long) allow this to happen, because the the Chinese firms are cheap...

Quality is usually less, but they are so cheap, that they get the nod.

It shows that money rules everything and Health and Safety always seems to play 2nd fiddle to it.
 
I think China is going through its own Industrial Revolution and flooding the worlds markets with inferior products will in time improve as the companies will realise that repeat business is the strength of any successful company.

There are quality companies in China that produce first class products in up to date factories with good Quality Control

It is not that long since we were talking about Japanese crap

As to the working conditions this also will improve as the “workers of China” begin to feel the power that they hold as a workforce and their aspirations grow with a new consumer lifestyle

If we are talking about “making things” the biggest outlay is usually Labour rates that in turn are governed by the size of your labour pool. China at present wins hands down with India coming a close second

“With just over 1.3 billion people (1,330,044,605 as of mid-2008), China is the world's most populous country. As the world's population is approximately 6.7 billion, China represents a full 20% of the world's population so one in every five people on the planet is a resident of China.
By the late 2010s, China's population is expected to reach 1.4 billion. Around 2030, China's population is anticipated to peak and then slowly start dropping.
In the next few decades, India the world's second most populous country is expected to surpass China in population. By 2040, India's population is expected to be 1.52 billion; that same year, China's will be 1.45 billion and India will become the world's most populous country.
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“Industrial Revolution

Richard Arkwright is the person credited with being the brains behind the growth of factories. After he patented his spinning frame in 1769, he created the first true factory at Cromford, near Derby.

This act was to change Great Britain. Before very long, this factory employed over 300 people. Nothing had ever been seen like this before. The domestic system only needed two to three people working in their own home. By 1789, the Cromford mill employed 800 people. With the exception of a few engineers in the factory, the bulk of the work force was essentially unskilled. They had their own job to do over a set number of hours. Whereas those in the domestic system could work their own hours and enjoyed a degree of flexibility, those in the factories were governed by a clock and factory rules.

Edmund Cartwright's power loom ended the life style of skilled weavers. In the 1790's, weavers were well paid. Within 30 years many had become labourers in factories as their skill had now been taken over by machines. In 1813, there were only 2,400 power looms in Britain. by 1850, there were 250,000.

Factories were run for profit. Any form of machine safety guard cost money. As a result there were no safety guards. Safety clothing was non-existant. Workers wore their normal day-to-day clothes. In this era, clothes were frequently loose and an obvious danger.
Children were employed for four simple reasons :

there were plenty of them in orphanages and they could be replaced easily if accidents did occurthey were much cheaper than adults as a factory owner did not have to pay them as muchthey were small enough to crawl under machinery to tie up broken threads they were young enough to be bullied by 'strappers' - adults would not have stood for this

Some factory owners were better than others when it came to looking after their work force. Arkwright was one of these. He had some harsh factory rules (such as workers being fined for whistling at work or looking out of the window) but he also built homes for his work force, churches and expected his child workers to receive a basic amount of education. Other owners were not so charitable as they believed that the workers at their factories should be grateful for having a job and the comforts built by the likes of Arkwright did not extend elsewhere.

At the time when the Industrial Revolution was at its height, very few laws had been passed by Parliament to protect the workers. As many factory owners were Members of Parliament or knew MP's, this was likely to be the case. Factory inspectors were easily bribed as they were so poorly paid. Also there were so few of them, that covering all of Britain's factories would have been impossible.”
 
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good post rigger, you are correct it is all about cost, china is cheaper that is why the UK fitting presses are silent.
These fittings hve been in the UK market place for over 10 years and are unknowingly used every day. The conditions may be poor but the product is on the rise. Keep an eye on what you buy and carry out suitable testing for quality and capacity.
Make no mistake these fittings are everywhere (although I will say the Indian version is pish poor)
 
The ***** want to try dragging dying kids from the roads and stop worrying about turning fittings out.. *******..
 
Just saw that vidio on the news, not nice at all. When yo see how they live close up it is shocking.
 
2 ***** ran over the 2 year old girl, without stopping, 18 pan face ***** walked past ignoring the little en who was bleeding to death, until a tramp dragged her from the road and got her to hospital were she died of her injuries.. chinese c.unts
 
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