TG20 Birdscage?

[aom]

Nobody is taking me on in the other thread, so I thought I would see if I had more luck starting another.

Has anyone tried to erect a free standing birdscage using the compliant brace pattern?

 

[Mr.B]

What every set of standards, continuous through the full height with an opposing brace every what ever it was

Not actually tried it yet but I did see how they wanted it done on the e suite

 

[aom]

Yeah, that's the one. It's a bit like the 2 bay 1 lift sway brace, it might be stronger, but it certainly doesn't look right.

 

[Mr.B]

The guy who done our tg20:13 course said it doesn't have to be one tube continuous and that it could be all one bay braces

Now I cant see a problem with bracing a bay dog legged up to the top then another bay dog legged up but bracing the opposite way

 

[aom]

My thoughts as well, but someone has obviously done their sums. You can still do it old school if it's butted on all 4 elevations.

 

[Mr.B]

Yeah, I found that e suite really easy to use. With the wind map locator thing really simple to use

 

[aom]

To be honest, I haven't had a chance to use the eguide yet, I suppose that would simplify the process considerably. I was just interested to hear what everyone else thinks about it.

 

[Mr.B]

Its good aom

You still in the game thought you sold up?

 

[aom]

I did sell up, or still a bit in the process. Shutting down is proving just about as difficult as starting up. I'm still in the game to a degree, can't see myself getting out entirely.

 

[marra watson]

so you may only use the old way 1 line of standards every 6 bay if its butted or tied other wise it every bay . just reading it , and it says to be braced with right angled couples to standards ????

 

[aom]

Old school if tied or butted. I don't know how to explain this without the use of pictures but if it's free standing you brace it more like a buttress. Not every bay but the end bay on the base, come in a bay on the second again on the third. At least 1 brace going the opposite way.

 

[marra watson]

Old school if tied or butted. I don't know how to explain this without the use of pictures but if it's free standing you brace it more like a buttress. Not every bay but the end bay on the base, come in a bay on the second again on the third. At least 1 brace going the opposite way.

am with you what happens after its 1 bay braced oppisite you then go out again or start again

 

[Mr.B]

Sure the opposing brace is every so many lifts

The compliance sheet will tell ya

 

[aom]

am with you what happens after its 1 bay braced oppisite you then go out again or start again

MrB is using the eguide, so he won't be far away, but from how I understand it, the opposing brace must meet the main brace even if it's a lift or two below. It all depends on the height of the job, and to be honest, I wouldn't like to have to erect one in anger without the eguide.

 

[Mr.B]

Yeah wouldn't like to be doing something like this from a compliance sheet

 

[aom]

No, definitely not.