PAYE, CIS or Umbrella - Straw Poll please Gents? (1 Viewer)

CIS every time but with no fees or bollox insurances, these should be covered by the client.
 
phil181 said:
Or just pay cash in hand...
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stonedrose1 said:
It should only ever be CIS if the job is price work/sub contracting and NOT as many companies use it for, as a way to get out of their obligations to pay scaffolders holiday pay and any other 'benefit' a worker in 2013 should be entitled to. If you're getting an hourly rate, you should be PAYE and enjoy the entitlements that come with it.
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Stonedrose1 i think that's a vote for PAYE as agencies can't engage on price work. Good definition stated above as that is how the HMRC interpret the CIS/PAYE distinction.
 
It's subject to exploitation by unscrupulous employers though as previously mentioned. HMRC don't seem to give a monkeys that it goes on either. Why defend the rights of the working man eh? There's no money to be made in doing that. Parasites the lot of them.
 
PAYE for everyone/employees. If you want to be a subcontractor in the UK then in my opinion You should be forced to start a legitimate business registered with companies house to prove legitimately that you are a subcontractor. Employers and employees will then have to pay tax at the correct amounts giving everyone a level playing field. Employees/scaffs will then become proper employees with rights and holiday pay.
 
Tom Lard said:
PAYE for everyone/employees. If you want to be a subcontractor in the UK then in my opinion You should be forced to start a legitimate business registered with companies house to prove legitimately that you are a subcontractor. Employers and employees will then have to pay tax at the correct amounts giving everyone a level playing field. Employees/scaffs will then become proper employees with rights and holiday pay.
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It should root out the slashers in a perfect world. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world and the one man and his pick up will always be there to bring the prices down.
 
Ok that's PAYE 4, CIS 2, Cash in Hand 1, no thank you 1 & Umbrella a resounding 0
 
Mike Mann said:
Phil181-no dig or travel money
Havespannerwilltravel-£25 would be nice but no contractor would pay that in the uk construction industry at the minute
Stevo-you favour PAYE so that's one
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Mike I prefer PAYE myself.
 
If we were all paye agencies would cost to much and companies would employ us directly again! In the middle of the industrial revolution workers were given one weeks holidays
Now with agencies and there umbrella pay plans they are taking our rights away! We work bloody hard and then some jumped up little sh it at a desk says you have to go thru umbrella or we can't take you on. It's a big con... It's time the british working my stood up!
 
With out an agency most lads wouldn't have a job most on her want £ 14-£18 ph your a joke I charge £16 and pay my lads £12-£13ph I like to make £3 per hour that's not to much to ask for getting you work is it?
 
one way said:
With out an agency most lads wouldn't have a job most on her want £ 14-£18 ph your a joke I charge £16 and pay my lads £12-£13ph I like to make £3 per hour that's not to much to ask for getting you work is it?
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Yes it is.
 
one way said:
with out an agency most lads wouldn't have a job most on her want £ 14-£18 ph your a joke i charge £16 and pay my lads £12-£13ph i like to make £3 per hour that's not to much to ask for getting you work is it?
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£3 for just having us get a job our jobs pay your wages!!!!!!!!!! The cheek of some of these fekers like hows about we take £3 an hours from your wage extra for working with ya does that make sense to you does it fek nither does talking money off hard working lads wage now awey to fek
 
No your job pays my commission we get a wage plus commission we work like dogs to get you guys out its not easy calling all the companies a lot of rejection involved I'd say we work just as hard if not harder then you guys
 
A lot of rejection? I can feel my eyes filling up for you.
 
I work in the London office and have lots of work 13 years in recruitment we have never been this busy I respect the job you guys do and you should respect the job I do don't think some guys on here should be bitching about recruitment consultants we work hard to get you working, oh and always go umbrella and use apex that's the best company
 
one way said:
With out an agency most lads wouldn't have a job most on her want £ 14-£18 ph your a joke I charge £16 and pay my lads £12-£13ph I like to make £3 per hour that's not to much to ask for getting you work is it?
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You're getting us work? Your position only exists because market forces allow it to. It's easier and less hassle for a contractor to utilise your service as it minimises their obligations and liabilties as a direct employer whilst you maximise your profit margin for the simple act of entering a qualified scaffolder, a specialised contractor into your database and offering said specialist labour to the client. Note the proper use of the word 'you're' as opposed to 'your a joke' as you errorneously had it. It's you're, as in you are. Don't make the the mistake of thinking we're too thick to understand the remit of 'recruitment consultants' because we turn a spanner and wear overalls while you wear a tie and extort money for 'getting us work'. Feel free to respond.
 
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We get paid nothing for you being on our database we only get paid commission when your working I'm just being honest mate we need each other
 
What about the underhand tactic of offering lads work, advertising positions at x amount of money, telling them to send in their cv's and no one, to a man, hears anything about it again? You don't have to be a genius to see its just a thinly veiled way of swelling the database for any future intake of manpower for your clients. I know it happens because all too often we see it on here.

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Gentlemen, seconds out, round 2...
...so far that's 5 for PAYE, 3 for CIS, 1 for Cash in Hand, 2 no agencies please and 1 for Umbrella
 
Does it count that the agency representative was in favour of umbrella companies? lol
 
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