we all no works picked up and rates are beter than theve been for years, but seems to me these firms and agenceys are quite happy to take part1 scaffolders on at rates up to £16.00 a hour just to fill these gaps were theres a shortage of scaffolders not saying all are unexsperienced as some have came throw the ranks but when you get a young lad turn up on sight with little or no experience there going to kill or hurt somebody exspecially when cisrs made the 10,000 ecitb scaffolders retrain were they wernt so called trained. the systems floored.