Gin Wheels

hemp or manilla : ye get a better grip mi natural fibre...canna be deein wi that blue sh!t when lifting and lowering operations are required...
 
keep a whether eye on your Inspections ( 6 month ) it could be more economical to scrap after six Months and acquire new stock...
 
We just buy for each job , as Adam ( the Wise one ) says it works out cheaper as you get a new certificate with each wheel , then just use them on the small jobs
 
@ Phillo...

From one Wise Ironmonkey to another ;)..can you remember back in the mists of time prior to mm, Rope was manufactured @ 3/4 of an inch which equals 19 mm...jist a Ball hair init...and ye, a bit of stretch would take the o/d of the rope down to 18 mm...
 
3/4 it was Garry , personally i dont think the 18mm rope sits right in the wheel and does tend to jump its track every now and again , which can be a right pain in the backside if you have 2 boards hanging there while you try and get it back on track
 
Hi Phillo

your spot on with the o/d of the rope and the hazards related to the wheel furrow ( for want of a better word ) which the rope travels, it really is no joke when the rope jumps and your at the other end...

small detail perhaps, but many pre course's to an incident usually are...
 
As the guys say 18mm manila is the best option but tbh is quite difficult to get & more expensive than the readily available blue nylon which may not be as good on the hands & is not susseptable to rot or chem damage @£100 per roll good value.
as for the complience cert we do our own as under lola & so by law it just states a competant person, there is no qualification to deem this basic bit of kit fit for use, its inspected for cracks/damage the spindel is regreased and a new split pin put in& a load of 150kg (over required cert) is suspended for an hour to check its ability on a long term suspended load -its then repainted its serial number logged & it goes into stock ready to use again. A new gini is about £30 so if you only want the odd one now & again just buy it, but ive got quite a few & like to save my stock
 
@ Southern...

As long as the Principal Client has not stipulated a Non-Bias Third Party Inspection that is a great way to comply...

Ye, in the ideal World fibre is best for lastings and rope, but, in these day of fiscal ring fencing perhaps the fibre price maybe inhibitable to the accountant...
 
Shouldn't the rope have a test certificate as well. You could have a nice shiny new well and a rope thats had it.
 
Yeah, you should. It's a bit of a nightmare trying to do everything right.
 
Believe it or not -the rope only needs a visual inspection but if you putting it up for ashfelters etc the shackle/hook or whatever type of fitting is being used needs to be weight tested & certified, companies like leeches actually sell the length of rope complete with closed eye ready for shackels.
its getting harder to make money aving to constantly buy kit like this unlike years ago when any old rope & wheel was used,& proberbly still is on the smaller tea & biscuit jobs, but these new generation of saftey officers can be quite anal
 
Some Company Policy require a more robust ( phisical Inspection ) which requires the rogues yarn be inspected, twist the three sheets open by hand or marlin spike, the rogues yarn should run through the centre of the rope, if it has deteriorated this indicates that the rope is suspect...
 
I'm surprised the rope and wheel haven't been outlawed with the manual handling regs . It would be difficult writing a risk assessment and not coming to the conclusion that there are better practical solutions in this day and age to save the poor labourers back.
 
Agreed, they were outlawed years back on rigs and stations. We carry a few and certified rope but to be honest very rarely use them.
 
a rope and wheel is good for erecting but a good ol lightline works just as well when stricking....ol philios will agree with that
 
20mm dia without drop brake,18mm dia with drop brake
manufactured as per DIN EN 1261 shape A,with spliced loops as per DIN 83 319
Shacle clips as per DIN 82 101
usually sold in 20m and 40m lengths
 
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