go to gemplers website and check out carharrt quilted coverall not cheap but worth the money. be warned dont even think of working in these if its above freezing. did a demolition job inside the ice climbing wall at wakefield constant -7c with blowers in the top.red viking had these on and just his boxers sweat his knackers off. they also do arctic ones in black cordura but i think they'd be to warm for uk winters