Joe bawden
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keza too true
Hi,as I said please call Tony Mileham and discuss it with him,it does not make sense in that FSS are being paid a fee by us,it may well be that we need to review this and for us to employ you Direct would be our preference and would also provide you with more employment security as well as being considered for further training if appropriate,regards TRAD.Well i had an offer from u n a offer from them n theres works out more
I have meny cussins working in heathrow
Unfortunately these type of comments go with the Territory in all Management positions whether you are a large Company or a small one,its all relative just a different scale and as Abraham Lincoln once said "you can please all of the people (Scaffolders) some of the time and all the people(Scaffolders)some of the time but you cannot please all of the(Scaffolders)all of the time,whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion people should make their own minds up and not be potentially influenced by someone who may have been unreliable,unproductive or just not very good at their job,the post we are responding to is anonymous so with respect we are not saying this applies to you but it may apply to others who post negative comments.
We would ask anyone that does post anything negative that they apply some meat to the bones and be specific as to what brought them to this conclusion/view, we can then investigate and in turn this will help us improve our Company,regards TRAD.
Hi,as I said please call Tony Mileham and discuss it with him,it does not make sense in that FSS are being paid a fee by us,it may well be that we need to review this and for us to employ you Direct would be our preference and would also provide you with more employment security as well as being considered for further training if appropriate,regards TRAD.
Hi,yes probably dependant upon the Agencies own specific terms and conditions but he does not appear to have been supplied to us by FSS yet,hopefully he will contact us direct again as requested, regards TRAD.If you employ him directly instead of fss who currently supply him to you ...do you have to pay them off in a form of a finders fee?
Hi,yes you are quite right that is what Lincoln did say but a popular use of the saying is as I quoted apart from the Scaffolders inclusion of course,with regard to the industry norm thread for us to contribute appropriately with specifics we are in danger of putting ourselves at a Commercial disadvantage and the Forum by its very nature offers anonymity to its Members some of whom may either work for or are the Principals of our Competitors and although I cannot speak on behalf of other Companies I suspect they may take the same view.Good post Trad Recruitment. Possibility the poster who said "Mans a c**t" possibly could have been referring to the original poster. Only he can say.
However its generally thought that Lincoln said "You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
You also made a comment about the industry norm output. There is a thread about this on the main forum. Maybe you would care to comment?
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Forgot to say that in my time in management I haven't been called a rude name. People seem to think I am an all round good egg!!
Post me your Mobile number and I will ensure someone will call you back,its a busy office with many people,regards TRAD.No1 has contacted me bk i rang earlier on
Unfortunately these type of comments go with the Territory in all Management positions whether you are a large Company or a small one,its all relative just a different scale and as Abraham Lincoln once said "you can please all of the people (Scaffolders) some of the time and all the people(Scaffolders)some of the time but you cannot please all of the(Scaffolders)all of the time,whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion people should make their own minds up and not be potentially influenced by someone who may have been unreliable,unproductive or just not very good at their job,the post we are responding to is anonymous so with respect we are not saying this applies to you but it may apply to others who post negative comments.
We would ask anyone that does post anything negative that they apply some meat to the bones and be specific as to what brought them to this conclusion/view, we can then investigate and in turn this will help us improve our Company,regards TRAD.
Hi,there are always slight variations in each Company and we would find any information posted by a Competitor useful to our Estimators so in the spirit of fairness we would not want to find out such information on the Forum,regards TRAD.You said the output conforms with the industry norm that all scaffold contractors use. So your competitors must know it already?
Hi,yes you are quite right that is what Lincoln did say but a popular use of the saying is as I quoted apart from the Scaffolders inclusion of course,with regard to the industry norm thread for us to contribute appropriately with specifics we are in danger of putting ourselves at a Commercial disadvantage and the Forum by its very nature offers anonymity to its Members some of whom may either work for or are the Principals of our Competitors and although I cannot speak on behalf of other Companies I suspect they may take the same view.
Quite a number of the responses you have had we would agree with particularly in relation to you are only as good as the men you employ and sometimes they may just have had a bad day through no fault of there own and should not be penalised docked or knocked which must be the most overused and misrepresented word in the Scaffolding vocabulary.
Outputs can vary greatly from job to job and from day to day and in many instances deviate significantly from that which was originally envisaged at tender stage and therefore anything that we would post would be of little value in any event in our opinion.
Our intention is to post honestly,be helpful and not critical and where we can without compromising ourselves commercially share best practise and advice with other Forum members,regards TRAD
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Post me your Mobile number and I will ensure someone will call you back,its a busy office with many people,regards TRAD.
Just spoke with tony mileham very happy with the offer hes made me!! Guna look at startin for trad i think
Good luck! I reckon you will last a month. Let us know how you get on.
N whys that then? Always 1 int the
is it the orange suits??