working in the rain

numbnuts said:
been self employed since 1987 paddy mate,its the way i am.old school through and through,if i dont work,i dont eat,simple as that.its why i work.(if you know what i mean)cards in people seem to have loads of time off.last place i worked at,in seven years there,i had ten days off sick,never had holidays or would work as much at xmas as poss.
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I totally understand my friend. I have the choice ( Site work) either sit in the cabin = flat time, and listen to Brickie sh1te.

Do a bit, on your own back, when your wet,feck off and get paid as such.

Wait till the Gaffer asks you to do it:D:D:D

Done them all and will do them again. Lads, do what is best for yourselves. Employed scaffs back your fellow man.
 
numbnuts said:
been self employed since 1987 paddy mate,its the way i am.old school through and through,if i dont work,i dont eat,simple as that.its why i work.(if you know what i mean)cards in people seem to have loads of time off.last place i worked at,in seven years there,i had ten days off sick,never had holidays or would work as much at xmas as poss.
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Got a start for you numbnuts:D:cool:
 
working in all weathers getting soaked went out with the arc duty of care from employer not to put guys as extra risk in an allredy dangerous job you cant have proper consentration on job if wet /cold no deadline is worth an accident and if your on job and knock you tend to rush and cut corners also there is rain and RAIN depends on how long how wet and how much work
 
i see theres a mixed view on this subject. the way i see it, if theres a deadline theres a deadline id like to think id get paid a lil bonus for workin in the rain but if i dont i dont. work is work and thats that. however i can see where the direct employed lads are coming from in a way you are ruinnig their cushty number. but you could say they are just lazy and like to skive. again mixed views. suppose its each to his own.
 
you just learn to ignore it,sometimes i dont even realise its been raining,or is raining.everyone has a different take on this.on another similar take,i know a chap thats been doing scaffolding for forty years,he once got called lazy for not working satday,ever since then,he has worked seven days a week.just so no one can call him lazy.any weather,anytime.
 
If you work in the wrong environment i.e Rain you are leaving it to chance that at one point someone will drop something .
That leaves you to open season for the small claims firms to cash in on your expense .
Remember that the first thing you will get ask is why you HAD to continue to work under these conditions.
The Deadline clause will not get you out of the woods as we work to the T.G20 Guidelines not Deadlines .
Take care in the Rain as the claims are US are ready to cash in
Never Say Never
 
tell the fishermen on the seas they cant work in the rain,:laugh:theres no law saying you cant work in the rain,its up to you,ive never lost grip yet of a wet tube,as i dont wear gloves either.if you wear gloves,then theres a possibility of slips.hse have a rod for there own back with all the ***** they come up with.its ok for them in there fekin heated offices,not on the front end of the stick like us.
 
Theirs no court in land that says you can
So take care out there in the rain
Never say Never
 
in my opion i feel thatby giving u job and knock in the rain obviously a job that is do able they get the productivity rather than letting u slog it out so surely every ones a winner.As for wet times if it is classed as a right after hard long fights why dont the industry recognise it then????

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numbnuts says it all lol
 
Don't rely on sweet heart deals when working in the rain
your drop.......... is someone else's Catch..££££££
Take care out there when working in the rain
 
s t u said:
in my opion i feel thatby giving u job and knock in the rain obviously a job that is do able they get the productivity rather than letting u slog it out so surely every ones a winner.As for wet times if it is classed as a right after hard long fights why dont the industry recognise it then????

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numbnuts says it all lol
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CIJC WRA which is what NASC members are also signed up to.
http://www.njceci.co.uk/assets/downloads/NAECI 20072010 Final Printed Edition.pdf
 
SWIFTY said:
DSL Swansea are in the NASC if you don't get wet you don't get paid. And they don't supply wet gear.
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Swifty that's pretty much the philosophy of every company I've worked for.
If it was hammering down we'd work till lunchtime and then head home, but when working subbie I was out all day regardless how hard it came down.

Shoulders don't half feel it now though :sad:
 
I've been watching this post with limited interest because it's one of those subjects where you'll never reach a conclusion. But, I just want to stick my beak in with a couple of points...

1, Employers have a legal obligation to supply wet weather gear to their lads.

2, Scaffolding is exposed to the elements in probably about 80% of the time (my rough guesstimate)

3, Employers have a legal obligation to risk assess and decide if works carried out in inclement weather are causing an H&S hazard. If it is, then they are obliged to pay basic hours or find alternative works in a safe area. Obviously, this is a grey area due to someone's perceived idea of an 'H&S hazard' - and the scaffolders employment status.

4, Most of us on this forum live and work on a small Island in the middle of the North Sea. It rains a lot. We are involved in a business that, by nature, involves a lot of working outdoors.

5, Considering points *2 &*4, what happens if it rains every day for a week? Where does the money come from to pay the wages - A lottery win? What do you tell a customer who has every other trade working in the rain and are screaming for scaffolding - "My scaffolders are all gay and they don't like getting their hair wet"?

So in my opinion, if there's 10k on a job, there's 10k on a job. There's no 'wet-weather fairy' who tops up a scaffolding contractors bank account in the event of heavy rain. If any sort of deal was struck where it was common practice to pay scaffolders to sit at home and surf the internet for free porn during rainy days, then guess who would pay for it ultimately?

That day or target rate would soon be reduced....
 
Phil181 Hi mate, as you should know by now, i value your opinion with great esteem.

However, as Jakdan stated, this will never get sorted on a Forum. The views of the Forum are however paramount to the consensus of opinion, Horses for courses, and everyone has a different opinion, this is the way forward.

I work in the rain, if it suits my needs, call me a cynic, however, if the other scaffs do not want to work in it on my site, i will not work in it. Swings and roundabouts phil my friend.

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P.S sorry Pip i forgot the LOL:sick:
 
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