Look pk people are telling you their feelings on here nobody is disrespecting you and I for one would not like to see you go bust here is a clear view of the situation how could a man come down to Plymouth hold down digs feed himself and hold down his family home,now correct me if i,am wrong but isn't the cost of living a lot more expensive down there or is the south the new north for low wages your rates you are offering will not attract hard working men on a dedicated basis I know of companies that are paying part ones 90s plus overtime and part 2s 140s advanced 150s now all said and done a man could earn more through an agency I hope you understand the feelings of the men and all said and done wouldn't you prefer dedicated men rather than being milked by a middle man and like you said you would put the work through an agent so then this gives you scope to pay more if you have input to sell through a middle man why not up your rates and losing your rag on here will only add to your stress to running your business is it worth it I wish you luck in finding men I have said my piece and that's that