Scaffolders - barnsley, south yorkshire s71

[Havespannerwilltravel]

i used to always work out my own gear, or someone in the squad would, FFS is that not what its all about.

ive known contracts managers that have been in the game 30 year and cant order gear correctly, because every squad errects differently, thats why they ask you?
just my opinion?

Part and parcel of the job for the scaffolder to work out the gear for the job.
You had to do it years ago at CITB get the gear for a 13 foot independent with 1 boarded lift. Get yer kit first then start erecting and not allowed to get anything else. That was part 1 stuff. I cant believe scaffs rely on contracts managers to do that for them these days.
Thats 2 men jacked jobs in the last week on the forum. One cos he was expected to work out his own gear. The other because he was expected to walk a few long uns.

 

[scaff22]

i used to always work out my own gear, or someone in the squad would, FFS is that not what its all about.

ive known contracts managers that have been in the game 30 year and cant order gear correctly, because every squad errects differently, thats why they ask you?
just my opinion?

Hi jakdan. know what you mean,always done that me-self & then some,usually get the boss-man asking how would you do this as well,ffs !!
Neva minded doing it,but used to wonder how he priced it in the first place !!
Now,got some of the younger 1's,& the older 1's too, that have no idea how to work it out,but it's just practice l find

 

[scafftag]

Oh dear :laugh:

Hi jakdan. know what you mean,always done that me-self & then some,usually get the boss-man asking how would you do this as well,ffs !!
Neva minded doing it,but used to wonder how he priced it in the first place !!
Now,got some of the younger 1's,& the older 1's too, that have no idea how to work it out,but it's just practice l find

Same as Jackdan.All the gaffer used to give to us was a homemade sketch.You obviously had to work out the gear needed for the job ,load the wagon then of you went.Soon got the hang of it,cos i was sick of the bollickings for coming back to the yard due to shortage of gear to finish the job of.

 

[Havespannerwilltravel]

Same as Jackdan.All the gaffer used to give to us was a homemade sketch.You obviously had to work out the gear needed for the job ,load the wagon then of you went.Soon got the hang of it,cos i was sick of the bollickings for coming back to the yard due to shortage of gear to finish the job of.

Even remember having to strip the truck rack down to make up the handrail years ago.
Men jacking for having to work gear out and humping kit......the games well and truly bu g gered

 

[scafftag]

Even remember having to strip the truck rack down to make up the handrail years ago.
Men jacking for having to work gear out and humping kit......the games well and truly bu g gered

Remember them days well Haverspanner,wished i had a pound for every time i had to strip the racking system cos was short of gear.Even when you said to yourself better put a bit of extra gear on just in case,you still ended up stripping the racking system.It took about 2 minutes to strip it and about an hour to put it back up x that by lots of times.

 

[scaff22]

Remember them days well Haverspanner,wished i had a pound for every time i had to strip the racking system cos was short of gear.Even when you said to yourself better put a bit of extra gear on just in case,you still ended up stripping the racking system.It took about 2 minutes to strip it and about an hour to put it back up x that by lots of times.

ah yes,memories,know that all too well

 

[jakdan]

Well lads i blame the fukcing mobile phone, can't think for themselves or just adapt to suit anymore,
what shall we do? ring the supervisor/contract manager?
boss boss theres a wheelbarrow in the way,(well fukcing move it)doh
boss boss theres a car parked where the wagon should be.FFS
boss boss the site manager said we cant hit the wall. (its an independent,t!t)
boss boss ?????????????
i could go on all day

Takes us back to another thread, i would take the older boy(over 30) 95% of the time

 

[scaff22]

Well lads i blame the fukcing mobile phone, can't think for themselves or just adapt to suit anymore,
what shall we do? ring the supervisor/contract manager?
boss boss theres a wheelbarrow in the way,(well fukcing move it)doh
boss boss theres a car parked where the wagon should be.FFS
boss boss the site manager said we cant hit the wall. (its an independent,t!t)
boss boss ?????????????
i could go on all day

Takes us back to another thread, i would take the older boy(over 30) 95% of the time

Ha ha spot on !!

 

[sinders]

jakdan im with you I blame the mobile phone it's making everything too easy for the younger scaffs they dont have to think anymore

 

[Havespannerwilltravel]

Well lads i blame the fukcing mobile phone, can't think for themselves or just adapt to suit anymore,
what shall we do? ring the supervisor/contract manager?
boss boss theres a wheelbarrow in the way,(well fukcing move it)doh
boss boss theres a car parked where the wagon should be.FFS
boss boss the site manager said we cant hit the wall. (its an independent,t!t)
boss boss ?????????????
i could go on all day

Takes us back to another thread, i would take the older boy(over 30) 95% of the time

Spot on mate.
We used to make ladder beams with butts if needs be.
These youngsters would be on the blower for alloy beams.

 

[PW]

Well lads i blame the fukcing mobile phone, can't think for themselves or just adapt to suit anymore,
what shall we do? ring the supervisor/contract manager?
boss boss theres a wheelbarrow in the way,(well fukcing move it)doh
boss boss theres a car parked where the wagon should be.FFS
boss boss the site manager said we cant hit the wall. (its an independent,t!t)
boss boss ?????????????
i could go on all day

Jackdan...fooking spot on...I get these phone calls quiet regular....

I personally think its a responsibility issue, I dont want to sound like an old fart BUT the recent generation of scaffolders and the generation as a whole dont want to accept responsibility for any of their actions, so they go into a switch off mode were things like Initiative and Problem Solving are required because that then means they would have to take a descisive action which of course takes us full circle back to responsibily and they dont want that, any problems they have automatically become someone else's i.e. Their Supervisor/Manager

 

[scaff22]

Jackdan...fooking spot on...I get these phone calls quiet regular....

I personally think its a responsibility issue, I dont want to sound like an old fart BUT the recent generation of scaffolders and the generation as a whole dont want to accept responsibility for any of their actions, so they go into a switch off mode were things like Initiative and Problem Solving are required because that then means they have would have to take a desisive action which of course takes us full circle back to responsibily and they dont want that, any problems they have automatically become someone else's i.e. Their Supervisor/Manager

Hi PW.
Spot on with that. Seems no-body wants to take the bull by the horns & make the decision any more,but when it works out & everythings ok,they're the first 1's wanting the credit & a pat on the back. Even though they just stood in the background & whinged that,they weren't shown this or that at college.

 

[Sammyscaff]

Even remember having to strip the truck rack down to make up the handrail years ago.
Men jacking for having to work gear out and humping kit......the games well and truly bu g gered

not jacked for havin to work gear out t i t s its cos the company is **** and ive got a better job on station so put that in ya pipe and smoke it

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Hi. I think this firm,CASC, where looking for a supervisior last week too.

ther puttin a scaff through supervisors course now he only been scaffolding 2 years and 1 year of that he was labrador lol cant use t&fit can only use cuplok and layher buzzin another chief who dont know what there on wi:amazed: