Part 2 Scaff with 7.5 Licence Required

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This role is based in the North Manchester area and is a temp to perm contract.

This will be working via myself for the client for trial period and will lead to a full time position if successful during that time.

The company works all year round rain or shine and is mainly working on social housing for re-roofing work. They have a growing contract base and are expanding year on year.

Rates are based on KPI and if candidate hits targets is equivalent to approx £14ph on 40 hours.
Payment is through CIS so candidate must have an existing UTR or be prepared to register to start the role.
If successful for trial period then candidate will be transferred and work on price for the client direct.

Hours of work are 730am - 430pm Mon- Fri with potential for OT if required.

If interested please contact me by telephone on 07867178704 to discuss.
 
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So it's street work on price with a set cap of £14ph agency work is a joke!
 
Anything to keep advanced on £9.50 an hour then lol. Go yard load up. Sit in traffic for hours then get site in a 7.5 tonne wagon. Run out of gear, back to yard for more gear. 3hours later back at job then back yard after 12 hours. An share the £120 you made between 3 lads!
 
Ok so what's the price then? And the reason we make these comments is because we are time served men and know just what it takes to get the job done! Yes there's is money to be made if gear is delivered to site, but working off a 7.5 tonne wagon battling through traffic it's clear your going to need a good price. After all 7.5 tonne is only a gable end and anymore means overloading which means fines or constant trips back to the yard. And if your only getting paid for the amount you put up then your traveling for nothing. So don't take offence in what we put, make it clear the rates then we can see from a glance if the job can pay or we're pissing in the wind!
 
Gary...i also use the forum to get guys & also get fed up with the timewasters but tbh m8 ur an agency so like it or not the majority of the guys experiances with agencies are bad & so are gonna give u a rough time.
Although you say the monies there if you wanna work longer hours & the rates are set by your client you have to realise that by constantly offering poor rates you will only ever get the dregs or guys that will only be used till something better lands. So stop bleeting about the boys moaning next to turning a spannerbits the only other thing we can all do well;)

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Gary...i also use the forum to get guys & also get fed up with the timewasters but tbh m8 ur an agency so like it or not the majority of the guys experiances with agencies are bad & so are gonna give u a rough time.
Although you say the monies there if you wanna work longer hours & the rates are set by your client you have to realise that by constantly offering poor rates you will only ever get the dregs or guys that will only be used till something better lands,as well as keeping wages low. So stop bleeting about the boys moaning next to turning a spannerbits the only other thing we can all do well;)
 
Now that is a response I can respect- clear, solid and sensible...so I will attempt to answer the questions as such...

In respect of the delivery to site situation then yes, the issue is noted and is accounted for in the factoring of the pay grade.
Part of the Driver/scaff job is to ensure the site filled with stock and fed when needed, not just the target for metres erected met..
The lorries are tracked so issues with traffic etc are accepted and the management of stock levels are also accounted for...the job needs a responsible pro-active man who will perform with the best interest on the company at heart...do the right thing be treated the right way. The KPI is NOT just (erected lifts = full pay)...
Its about conduct, attitude and teamwork...the client wants to employ long term staff off the back off this temp contract.

The "price" will be explained in detail by the client when interviewed for the job and go onsite, but the bottom line is that for the first period the rate of pay is designed to give a gross pay of £600 if you acheive targets over 40 hours set by client.
These targets/kpi will be defined dependant on the exact site your get sent to. There are multiple locations so it is not "job n knock"...if finish at one go straight to next job or to the yard to prep for next job.

The rates are set by client and are based on the temp doing same standard as full time men in same hours-so he gets same pay!....the reality of it is if the temp did not acheive the same as full time he would not be asked back anyway so would never even see the lower rate as he would be gone. The fact is the client pays my fee no matter if you do well or not and its over the top of you gross pay meaning you actually cost him more than the ft lads until taken on...so it not in his interest to keep using via me if the man is right for job...he will just sign him over from me.

I take no offence my friend, I have been around scaffs for too long to be offended by that but I am annoyed that when trying to offer out work the attitudes are so negative because of a few bad agencys and a few rip off payroll firms ruining what should be a very simple process...you get job, I get fees, we all win.
Sadly its just not that easy to make everyone happy all the time...and the priorities are so skewed nowadays...when I was younger you went to work for a man and showed him your skills...THEN you pressed for more money and better hours....not before you have even lifted a spanner...hope that you can see past my agency flag and see that I am trying to employ someone to do a bit of work...its not selling out, feeding the vultures, getting ripped or raped of wages...its just business and will continue tomorrow even if we all drop dead tonight.. someone out there will always want someone like me to do the employing for them...my client HATES recruiting he just cannot tolerate the whole ordeal so he pays people like me to do it for him..hope this helps.
 
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excellent email...I thoroughly agree with your statements...however the only thing I cant change is the rates that clients pay....its not the agency that sets the rate...its the clients, and that is dictated by what people will work for in an area or sector of industry and sadly, like MOST industries the rates of pay have reduced over the last few years and are only getting better in certain areas and disciplines..
The fact is we have all taken pay reductions since the recession..my salary has more than halved since 08 and I work twice as hard for it...but if i sat at home saying " I dont want to work for 25k its rubbish, last year i was on 70k why shud i do that?" well i would be on the dole...and I was recruited by an agency who paid fees for me too just like you lads get, agencys are in EVERY sector of industry and in no industry do they dictate the wage for the job...the employers hide behind us and they do it...will never change we just need to work harder as recruiters to ensure that reputation is good.
 
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Jesus is it me or are there lots of people who only want to moan about **** jobs and pay rather than go out and do a good job and get taken on?

In answer to all the questions and comments...

Yes its clearly slave labour circa 1900 lol.....KPI s are used to ensure lazy blokes dont sit in van all day tossing it off trying to stay on site all day without doing a lift....if thats keeping a man on 9.50 then its because he is only worth 9.50....and any good scaffolder who wants to work would not care about the kpi they would just KNOW they can achieve it...
(there 6 blokes here on 550-600 per week all year round rain or shine and they not advanced so its good money for street work with guaranteed hours).....
If thats the case how are we trying to keep them on 9.50? makes no sense that argument....do more get paid more...what more do you want???

The job is live and there will be more vacanies in next 2 weeks due to new contracts starting so this will be filled by someone who wants to get a long term job and is reliable, trustworthy and proffessional....

If thats not you and you are not interested then why waste your own time sitting making comments about the inadequecies and thievery of firms offering employment....

Bottom line is the company has the right to pay what they like, for whatever work people do...if its not enough or dont like the terms then its real simple....you do not have to apply or waste you time reading it...

To all those who actually want a real opportunity to get settled in a job please feel free to contact me. I actually have some very happy well paid blokes working for me so its no skin off my nose to read this type of petty uniformed rubbish being written when i post a job...the truly sad part is that people have nothing better to say...
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You seem surprised in your first line that scaffolders might talk and moan about **** jobs and **** wages. If you find that surprising you obviously haven't been in the industry for very long.
 
So if you're client rings up and says not enough work done
He could save himself a few quid .....,,
 
If you think about it it's quite funny. Doing price work on a litle lorry lol nuts
 
faz are you interested in applying? i am sorry but cant give out the name of client on here, no offence but its confidential until inmterview as client doesnt want people contacting direct.

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funny things actually is people dont even know what the job is but assume that the size of the lorry affects the if you can hit the kpi and get top rate.

6 blokes are there already hitting kpi every week, been there 5 years with the same size lorry and amount of kit....the kpi is tailored around what they acheive...why think its wrong or a problem?
Those guys doing well but then again they are very dedicated and hardworking.

Its a small scaffold firm running social housing restoration and roofing....they do not need a big lorry to support the jobs..they need reliable men and a little lorry. simple

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The client is genuine and wants to retain a full time man on cards after trial to decide if right man...he can do that when he wants its up to him to decide and he just takes the man on....again my fees are seperate so do not affect the decision to employ or the cost of it.
 
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