Man fell to death from faulty scaffolding

Sorry JD, a post was put up with half the facts missing,leading to speculation from forum users. I disagree with your statement on aportioning blame to others and protecting our industry. Most here are the first to point fingers and forever posting pictures of dodgy erections.And ask the question,"where is H/S" so accidental death remains the verdict in this mystery.
Truly sorry for the familys tragic loss.
 
JD I was not going to post to the thread again, but on reflection,I feel I must as you have quoted my post's twice, in your three post's to the thread

In my first post,

I was questioning why an Advanced scaffolder was not competent to inspect the scaffold.

"What I get from the post is that an "Advanced Scaffolder"stated he was not competent to inspect the scaffold (no doubt after legal advice)"

"Begs the question "who did employ him"?,Who checked his competence before instructing him to inspect the scaffold ?"

I also asked why it took two years to conduct an inquest and why others that had a Duty of Care had not been mentioned in the report

"Appears to me that the blame is being put on the scaffolder that inspected the scaffold. There is no mention of the others that have a duty of care in this case.Or if the HSE is to prosecute any party in this matter"

"This is two years after the accident occured. Far to long, I wonder how much money the experts claimed,and what the legal profession billed "

I asked the originator of the thread, to disclose his source,I have since learned it was the "Hereford Times"report of the Coroners Court verdict

"There is a lot of detail missing from this post and I would like Teeside Scaffolder to post his source."

In my second post

I was asking you for more detailed information of the accident and again asked if the HSE is intending to proscecute.

JD
"he was not at fault for the fall, lack of health and safety inspections were."

"he was only threading a gin wheel, the blame lay with the inspections."

The only dynamic action you quote,in this tragic accident,was the threading of the rope prior to the late Mr Gordon Docherty falling.

Was he stood on the working platform ?
how far out was the gin wheel from the working platfom ?
how high was the gin wheel above the working platform?

No doubt the Inquest asked all these questions, and returned an "accidental Death" verdict

I cannot see how the scaffold inspection,or lack of it, contributed to this fall.

Is the HSE intending to prosecute anyone in relation to this accident.
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I have not speculated on the cause of the tragic accident,I have not Defended the companies involved and lastly and most importantly, I have not wished to cause distress to the late Mr Gordons Docherty's Family and friends If I have, I unreservadly apologise,this was not my intention.
 
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Condolences to JD & family

I may be adding 2+2 = 5 but
If Mr Docherty was standing on uncliped toe board to thread gin wheel and it fell back he may have lost his ballance and fallen over the handrail
In which case an inspection and securing the loose toe board may have saved his life
 
yes those were basically the findings. that had the inspection been done correctly then the fault would have a) either been remedied or b) the scaffold would have been shutdown as unsafe until the toeboard was reclipped. and a scaffold expert stated that it was reasonable that a clipped toeboard would/should be able to remain secure under weight/pressure. there was no evidence that mr docherty was stood on the toeboard but logically there was probably some causal link
 
I always tighten the toeboard laps.. how many just slot them over the board though ?
 
Ok, all clear now jd. Thanks again for sticking with us, no one ever meant any offence. I hope you get the conclusion you want.
 
cala said:
I always tighten the toeboard laps.. how many just slot them over the board though ?
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So do I. But too many leave them loose.

Thanks for the input JD, we never meant to criticise. As said we like to find definite answers to these sort of things.
 
hi all,
its all good,
if knowing what can happen makes toeboards tighter than there is some good.
 
jd, that is the true beauty of the forum and people like you willing to come on under such terrible circumstance's and tell us what's happening. Unfortunately cold comfort for some but you have reached thousand of scaff's who will be thinking of this the next time they think about just hooking the fitting over the board.
 
Exactly, toeboard clips are fittings.. so tighten the fuk.ers up.. lazy *******.s do my head in..
 
just to show the importance of tightening and inspections, this board didn't even have a clip, that is the importance of inspections.
as users of a products (ie a bus, train, scaffold) we don't inspect them before use, we assume ans expect that someone with specialist knowledge has done that.
thanks to all
 
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