Worked with most of the McMillans on the Brents years ago. Funny as fk all of them, even more so when all together. Last worked with John on the LTFD onthe Delta i think it was. That was with Salamis. John's eyes were going and i used to laugh when he used to come down the ladder with about 6 feet of tape measure trailing and say, get us a board that length son, then disappear back up the ladder. We were with a wee guy from Carnoustie called Curly something. Curly used to own a petshop there at one time i think.