I started off in this game as a lorry drivers mate 17 years ago. The only ticket i got then was my train ticket to the yard every morning. After a year i got put out with a gang but with no spanners till i had laboured for a year and even then i was limited to what i could do. As far as im concerned i learnt the right way even if it was the hard way at times. I always listened and asked questions, why, what, when ,how, where when i wasnt sure. Still aint got tickets but will get scaffs with advanced asking me things. Bit of paper aint worth 2bob nowadays in my opinion