I have been trying to get my money out of one of the so called big nationals for over 3 months now. Qs was sacked and we had to go through the whole painful process of forwarding information again. That in itself is bad enough but I thought we were starting to get somewhere about a fortnight ago when a new broom came in and again promised if we sent this final bit of information we would be payed that week. This seemed to go on for ever till the final straw came last night when they requested a full copy of my bank statement and a cancelled pay in slip, SHAKSMAFEKINHEID. This is not a delaying tactic but some new anti-fraud system they have in place. Am I being stupid or is this the norm.
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Rigger
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new one on me,nobody has a right to ask for your full bank statement and afraid you lost me with the "cancelled paying in slip"
Most of my payments come in as electronic transfers,sometimes the occasional cheque
To me it looks like a delaying tactic to withhold payment,If they have not queried your invoice i would demand payment asap
Most of my payments come in as electronic transfers,sometimes the occasional cheque
To me it looks like a delaying tactic to withhold payment,If they have not queried your invoice i would demand payment asap
Mark_ISL
Well-known member
I've been asked to provide a paying in slip before to prove the bank account details, but the bank statement is a new one on me. Seems to me just to duplicate the information they've already got :weird:
Saying that, I don't see any reason in not sending a copy of a single page of a bank statement with non-relevant information blanked out, ie. O/D limit, transactions, etc. Anything more is simply not necessary and strikes of delaying tactics :suspicious:
Saying that, I don't see any reason in not sending a copy of a single page of a bank statement with non-relevant information blanked out, ie. O/D limit, transactions, etc. Anything more is simply not necessary and strikes of delaying tactics :suspicious:
Sorry mark, I know I'm just a dumb red neck country boy but there is just know way I will be sending my bank details anywhere.
Except maybe to that Nigerian mob who want to gift me $500,000,000.:embarrest:
No details = no payment.
Trying to work round it but I'm just getting angrier and angrier thinking about it. I've got to the stage that even when I hear that wee sniveling 12 year old's voice asking for more info I want to reach down that phone and stretch him.
Better oot than in.
Trying to work round it but I'm just getting angrier and angrier thinking about it. I've got to the stage that even when I hear that wee sniveling 12 year old's voice asking for more info I want to reach down that phone and stretch him.Better oot than in.
HatterScaff
Well-known member
:amazed:I agree sounds like bolox to me as well
:idea:New payment delaying tatic
Try filling out a county court judgement form, fax it over first thing in morning, saying submission will be at 4pm unless they respond by return
GOOD LUCK MATE (i think you may need it):wacko:
:idea:New payment delaying tatic
Try filling out a county court judgement form, fax it over first thing in morning, saying submission will be at 4pm unless they respond by return
GOOD LUCK MATE (i think you may need it):wacko:
Mark_ISL
Well-known member
As said, a paying in slip proves you have an account with a bank. Ask him which part of the subcontract or legal statute means you have to provide your bank statement :blink1:
If he can't answer you, demand payment in writing within 7 days, no matter how big the Contractor - usually stirs the hornets nest further up the finance dept. :laugh:
Oh, and if you get the money off the Nigerians, let me know so I can send them my bank details as well
If he can't answer you, demand payment in writing within 7 days, no matter how big the Contractor - usually stirs the hornets nest further up the finance dept. :laugh:
Oh, and if you get the money off the Nigerians, let me know so I can send them my bank details as well
I fired a few eff's down the phone last night when I heard the latest request, now total radio silence. Can't really blame him I suppose but leaves me little option but to get a bit nasty. We use a great firm for debt collection in Hamilton staffed almost entirely with women, who have a 99% success rate for me. I reckon it's time I give them a call. I will let you know the outcome.
Tufty
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Aom
Go round his house knock on his door and tell him you have just run into the back of his car(his family dont need to know he is a knocker). When he comes out to look at the damage explain politely if you dont get your money in 7 days you will be park a pink mini metro outside his house with a flashing beacon on top displaying a sign saying I dont pay my debts and leave it there until you get payment. This worked every time for a friend of mine I go down the legal route myself but as a scaffold safety consultant we dont get knocked that much!!!
Kallum
Member
Hi Aom,
I havent seen this specific tactic before but it sounds pretty familar, we had a customer that went bust on us back late last year and the scaffold "our equipment" was still erected on the flats, however Costain took the hire over and after the contract was finished they denyd having it on hire!
Long story short me and my MD just paid them a visit and just offered them a price to "settle" the bill, in the end we knocked £3000 off and he paid within 7 days.
Try looking for a settlement deal rarther than the full price because they will just keep evading you. some money is better than no money!
I havent seen this specific tactic before but it sounds pretty familar, we had a customer that went bust on us back late last year and the scaffold "our equipment" was still erected on the flats, however Costain took the hire over and after the contract was finished they denyd having it on hire!
Long story short me and my MD just paid them a visit and just offered them a price to "settle" the bill, in the end we knocked £3000 off and he paid within 7 days.
Try looking for a settlement deal rarther than the full price because they will just keep evading you. some money is better than no money!
Bearing in mind that we are quite small scaffy I would call it sizeable. It's all relative no matter your size it's a sore one.
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Aye, nice one tufty, might try that one:laugh:.
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Kallum,
You are probably right, that's why we use the debt collectors, cost a fortune but they will get the cash. I have just been informed by my better half that I am now banned from talking to any customers now and in the future, she is going to get some document from the bank to prove that it's our account and reckons we will get paid before the end of the month.:notrust: I await with baited breath.
Kallum
Member
Well only time will tell now then!
neilb
Well-known member
agreed account ?
AOM
Has the account been agreed in full?
AOM
Has the account been agreed in full?
neilb,
No problem on that score, we have loads of paper work in that regard, the job was erected in April and we haven't been near it since, the agent delighted, it's just one wee fecker in the office trying to impress his new gaffer.
No problem on that score, we have loads of paper work in that regard, the job was erected in April and we haven't been near it since, the agent delighted, it's just one wee fecker in the office trying to impress his new gaffer.
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ragscaff
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Us cornish boys need a holiday. My mates called TANK he could get your money hes quite big. Height!!! I'm 18 stone 5.10 & look like dany divito stood next to him!!:cheesy:
Could you get them to pick up tufty's pink metro with the flashing beacon, that would be a bonny sight.
Why can I hear the tunes from the rocky horror picture show.