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:sad:Any advice boys having completed my part 2 course back in december i have had to wait till now to apply for my nvq which i think is bollox?As the system is so corrupt as two of the boys who worked for big companys had already completed there evidence hence not going down the route i went down self funder!So my dilema is im :unsure:having problems getting evidence as im working of a lorry most of the time not doing many pavement gantrys or truss out jobs so any advice how i can get round this nightmare :wondering:
 
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:sad:Any advice boys having completed my part 2 course back in december i have had to wait till now to apply for my nvq which i think is bollox?As the system is so corrupt as two of the boys who worked for big companys had already completed there evidence hence not going down the route i went down self funder!So my dilema is im :unsure:having problems getting evidence as im working of a lorry most of the time not doing many pavement gantrys or truss out jobs so any advice how i can get round this nightmare :wondering:
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With being slightly enconomical with the truth, u dont need photos for your NVQ portfollio, however if you can get a couple of pictures of erected jobs it will help, use a tool box talk for each unit, A letter off your employer stating that you can competently erect & strip all the jobs in the workbook will count as good evidence for each unit, witness statements of CISRS registered Scaff colleauges will also count. If you are really struggling private mail me & i'll help you out.;)
 
bolo said:
:sad:Any advice boys having completed my part 2 course back in december i have had to wait till now to apply for my nvq which i think is bollox?As the system is so corrupt as two of the boys who worked for big companys had already completed there evidence hence not going down the route i went down self funder!So my dilema is im :unsure:having problems getting evidence as im working of a lorry most of the time not doing many pavement gantrys or truss out jobs so any advice how i can get round this nightmare :wondering:
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If your working off the back of a truck throwing up house fronts and back and chimney repairs etc you should be able to complete a portfolio in no time. read what it asks for and you will see it does not have to be a pavement scaffols as such...it only needs to be any type of scaffold that others have access through.....like the front doors to the houses your working on, with a way of protecting people from debris and the scaffold its self.

A trussout can be anything with a spur or a pull back so long as it has check fittings and the spurs sre the correct angle and within the permitted length if unsupported
The bloody portfolio is a piece of piss to complete

Most likley your finding it hard to complete because you cant be bothered or you cant find someone to do it for you
Its only 'bollox'' that you want the qualification of being a scaffy but dont want to earn it
How long does it take a chippy or a bricky

Just read each section and look at what the requirements are for that unit and you will see that you are building them every day most likley, now all you got to do is get evidence that you are building them correctly.
If the bloke your working for is a tosser and dose not put jobs up the right way and with in the law then you can blame everyone else if your willing to be part of the no paperwork cowboys outfit that the corrupt system as you refer too is trying vto get rid off
 
As the above poster said the portfolio is pretty easy to complete.
Take it one section at a time, read through it to see what is actually wanted.

As said, a pavement scaffold can be as simple as a standard having red n white tape on it to show how you protected the public by highlighting a hazzard.

Photos are the best and easiest way to get evidence as it cuts down on more paperwork, if you use photos just make sure you are working off the correct number of boards, behind a guardrail etc etc, just use your common sense and it will be plain sailing.

Ive done bloody loads of these for lads and got them through. Any other questions or help required, ask.
 
Only problem is the portfolio that requires photos has now been deleted from the system as it was apparently too difficult to complete, the new registration country wide for scaffold qualification is QCF.

This requires the candidate to complete a site diary, by providing written details for each of the same units and removes the need for photos and work based paper evidence completly.
I know the total completion of these portfolios is more or less possible over the two week training period of the part two course whilst in college, as prior evidence can be used. The instructors at the new CITB training center in Leytonestone are Guiding the students through how to complete the portfolio in the class so by the time they finish the part two they just need to get a couple of signatures when they return to site.

To complete this new type portfolio you MUST be registered to the correct scheme and when the candidte is registered they can not then provide the old Magenta type portfolio with photo evidence. New registrations are now only being made to QCF so before any effort towards completing a portfolio is made be sure you know if you are in fact registered to the the correct scheme, the registration for the Magenta portfolio is QUA754 ( basic) & QUA755 ( Advanced)

The NATIONAL CONSTRUSTION COLLEGE started to register people to the new registration towards the end of last so if you got a portfolio given to you during the part one when you would not have been registered it is now useless. Candidates do not get registered untill starting the part two

IF YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED ALREADY TO QUA DO NOT COMPLETE THE PHOTO PORTFOLIO AS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT
 
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Yea correct Geoff.
Although if your NVQ has not expired and you are already part way through the evidence the old portfolios are still valid ( or so I have been informed) if you are not registered and not completed then yes you will need to carry out the new style portfolios, which in my opinion are even easier to complete as no photos are required at all.
Just make sure any evidence you claim to have can be verified if required.
 
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Yea correct Geoff.
Although if your NVQ has not expired and you are already part way through the evidence the old portfolios are still valid ( or so I have been informed) if you are not registered and not completed then yes you will need to carry out the new style portfolios, which in my opinion are even easier to complete as no photos are required at all.
Just make sure any evidence you claim to have can be verified if required.
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Dave its a lot easier to complete,

Even if the candidate cant write themself then he/she is allowed to get someone to write it for them, as there is a proffesional disscussion during the final assessment where the candidate can explaine anything that is missing from the written statements, The disscussion will be a class based 1-1 with the assessor and will be based around the evidence used in the diary so as long as they took an active roll in the erection process and understand all the minumum requirements for each unit it will be easy.

But rest assured some will not be bothered to do any of the work required as they seem to think its all B*******ks and a waste of time,
they will most likley get one of their mates to fill it out for them and then not have a clue about the job evidence provided in the portfilio and totaly f**k up the professional disscussion part,
and when they are given a new diary and told they need to start again it will be the fault of the system and everyone else but themselves the same as its all B********ks when their falsified photo portfolios are returned with pictures of them working unsafe or against all the traing they completed
These after all are the coyboys the system is trying to keep out the buisness;)
 
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Problem is is still just an attendance course, will anyone actually fail it? I very much doubt it.

Got a couple of lads doing the new portfolios now, as usual, nothing getting done. Tickets expire in a month or two, if not done and complete they have been told they are down the road as we cant use them on site without the tickets.
 
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Problem is is still just an attendance course, will anyone actually fail it? I very much doubt it.

Got a couple of lads doing the new portfolios now, as usual, nothing getting done. Tickets expire in a month or two, if not done and complete they have been told they are down the road as we cant use them on site without the tickets.
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Aparently Instructors can get suspended if they fail someone on an assessment and from what I hear the candidates can get shown interesting types of movies in class at a centre that I will not name by an istructor that I will not mention either.....or so I am told!!!!!
 
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geoffbecks said:
Aparently Instructors can get suspended if they fail someone on an assessment and from what I hear the candidates can get shown Porn movies in class at a centre that I will not name by an istructor that I will not mention either.....
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i met an instructor two week ago who had actually failed a part two, this could be the first case ever, the lad must have been deaf & dumb? saying that the disability and discrimination act will proably overrule the CISRS instructor at appeal?:idea:
 
geoffbecks said:
If your working off the back of a truck throwing up house fronts and back and chimney repairs etc you should be able to complete a portfolio in no time. read what it asks for and you will see it does not have to be a pavement scaffols as such...it only needs to be any type of scaffold that others have access through.....like the front doors to the houses your working on, with a way of protecting people from debris and the scaffold its self.

A trussout can be anything with a spur or a pull back so long as it has check fittings and the spurs sre the correct angle and within the permitted length if unsupported
The bloody portfolio is a piece of piss to complete

Most likley your finding it hard to complete because you cant be bothered or you cant find someone to do it for you
Its only 'bollox'' that you want the qualification of being a scaffy but dont want to earn it
How long does it take a chippy or a bricky

Just read each section and look at what the requirements are for that unit and you will see that you are building them every day most likley, now all you got to do is get evidence that you are building them correctly.
If the bloke your working for is a tosser and dose not put jobs up the right way and with in the law then you can blame everyone else if your willing to be part of the no paperwork cowboys outfit that the corrupt system as you refer too is trying vto get rid off
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well said m8
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haveing a bit of trouble doing my part 2 nvq just wondering how much detail you have to write when desribing how the job went up/dismantled have no problem getting hand overs risk assements method statments but do you have to desribe in full placeing soil boards down making sure every leg is plumb or just put down it was 2m spacings and a 1.8 m lift braced every other bay and work in acoordance with sg4/10 at all times
 
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You need to write a breif discription of the scaffold ie. for the first entry which is for the independent or birdcage you must explain what it was in- overall size and what it was to be used for and what it was erected on ....such as saying

The Independent was erected for a five board wide access platform for the builder to gain safe access to the south elivation of the building, it was 15m in length and 10m in height with two inside boards.
The scaffold was built on type one hardcore that had been compacted ny the client to provide a suitable base, the scaffold was erected as follows.
> Scaffold set out with 21' and 14' standards staggared to strengthen the frame with 1.9m bays
> I erected the scaffold using the reverse base method with temporary braces to hold the frame and inside standards
> The standards were set out on 1.5m sole boards & base plates to support the scaffold & spread the load on the ground
> the base lift was set out at 2.2m above the ground with the ledges staggared to strengthen the frame these were attched to the standards with doubles these were to carry the transoms and provide a level platform
> Transoms were placed across the ledgers & attached with single couplers at 1.2 centers and were no more that 300mm from the node points these were to support the boards
> Sway braces were attached across the outside standards at 45 degree angle and were installed using swivel couples every 6 bays, these were to plumb the standrds left/right & to stop side -side movement
> ledger braces were placed at each end of the scaffold and at alternate pairs of standards with swivels and doubles from the bottom of the inside standard to the outside ledger, these were to plumb the standards in & out frpm the building.
>The scaffold was tied to the building with ring bolts (hilti ties) aprox 4mx4m in line with TG20 recomendations
> The boarded platforms were five boards wide with double hand rails attached to the outside standards at 1.0m high with the second lower set below the upper using my level a a guage so the rail was no more that 450mm down. scaffold boards were attacehd to the outside standards with single couplers(clips) for toe boards to stop debris from being kicked off
> Access was gained by a short ladder from the ground during erection and a haki stair tower was built for access to the upper levels and for general acces to the independent when it was handed over.
> I erected the scaffold using a scaff step and my harness in line with the training I was given from my traing centre and following SG4:10 and the working at height regulations...

When you are completing each job Just try to use bullet points that sum up what you did & how you did it and what the item is for/what it does
.........simples.......................
hope this gives you the idea:D
Good luck
 
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Mate if u got a gd charge hand u get on with go round his an do it with him I bin working with my trainee 2 years but was part one wen I met him he came round mine as he is dyslexic an I got him to talk me through it as I wrote it an only took a few sessions at mine wen we had gathered all the evidence it's very easy if u don't stress I was lucky to have a photo one so not much writing jus a few photos of jobs with me erecting it the longer u leave it the worse it will seem get stuck in to it an soon be done best of luck
 
Cheers for your help and advice lads it's all the writing thats doing my nut (not my strong point ) will be getting on it over the next couple of weeks as I get married in 4 so would be nice to get it done before the honeymoon I'll keep you posted on how I get on
 
Handed in my nvq now have another 33 questions to do feel really dishartend
 
Hi
My son has passed his part 1 and part 2 (in May 2012) and completed his portfolio to the best of his ability (he's dyslexic). What happens now? How do we get him signed off? He is self employed.
Thanks
 
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