When Santa empties his sack..............
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Garry Adams
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to empty my sack 
Garry Adams
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Weaver…aye, the Forum will heat up soon…and whats the script with this Overseas Ticketed Scaff being allowed to work in Europe…have you heard anything ???
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LA LA LA The only thing I want for Christmas is my two front teeth PMSL...
Garry Adams
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Weaver…have a butchers of Post " looking for a new year Training Bargain…5 th post down…I told you the Forum would heat up very soon…whats your thoughts Bro ???
Garry Adams
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Weaver…I am awaiting further information on this one, however, with the information available…Overseas CISRS Ticketed Scaffolders gain a European Recognised Qualification, recent Regulations would allow them to work in Europe ( We are part of Europe )…this is worth researching deeper me thinks ???
Will agree that research is the way forward Garry as facts are always the winner. BUT...............on previous experiences...................I know for a fact that in The Netherlands they can obtain an Advanced Scaffold qualification in 3 yes i said 3 days!!!!!!!!!!! At that time,(2/3 yrs ago) this qualification was not recognised in the UK.
I worked with 2 lads from Poland on an istallation in the Dutch Sector, had been offshore for 5 yrs and only been scaffolding for 5 yrs. 1 of them told me the only reson he could not get the supervisors ticket was that his level of English was not good. So issued with his 3 day Advanced Scaffold qualification he took off offshore. This storey continues hope your settled in my friend..................
......................One morning we were in the control room and were due to commence with a hanging scaffold off the 5 metre level walk way. Very close to the sea would you agree?? Yes i thought so myself. First off, compancy procedures:
1, No outboard work if the wind speed is 22 knots or above,
2, No work to proceed above 2m with wind speeds 22 knots or above,
3, No outboard work to commence in the sea state is 2.5m or above.
Right back to the tale, i was approsched by the "chargehand", (a term i use very loosly indeed), with the outboard permit to sign. I said NO, to a look of shere horror. I was then asked why, I firmly replied with, the sea state is 3m+ and the wind is blowing at 28 knots gusting to 31 knots.
I had a barrage of you need to sign this and the English man does not want to work. The Supervisor at the time was on his way around 5 satelites on his tagging duty. They called him back early to settle this dispute. I know this supervisor of old. He backed me all the way, as he knew i too was a supervisor for the company in question. They didnt speak to me for 10 days out of a 14 day trip. Apart from we need this job, our families need this job and your just going to get us NRB'd.
I will stand my ground all day with safety out here mate if I am right. As im sure you would. I had a full apology off the control room once they knew the FACTS. But, summing up old pal, if this is the quality that we will get from europe it is frightening and scarey. AND, I personally think we could do with out this, this country has enough to sort out.................
I worked with 2 lads from Poland on an istallation in the Dutch Sector, had been offshore for 5 yrs and only been scaffolding for 5 yrs. 1 of them told me the only reson he could not get the supervisors ticket was that his level of English was not good. So issued with his 3 day Advanced Scaffold qualification he took off offshore. This storey continues hope your settled in my friend..................
......................One morning we were in the control room and were due to commence with a hanging scaffold off the 5 metre level walk way. Very close to the sea would you agree?? Yes i thought so myself. First off, compancy procedures:
1, No outboard work if the wind speed is 22 knots or above,
2, No work to proceed above 2m with wind speeds 22 knots or above,
3, No outboard work to commence in the sea state is 2.5m or above.
Right back to the tale, i was approsched by the "chargehand", (a term i use very loosly indeed), with the outboard permit to sign. I said NO, to a look of shere horror. I was then asked why, I firmly replied with, the sea state is 3m+ and the wind is blowing at 28 knots gusting to 31 knots.
I had a barrage of you need to sign this and the English man does not want to work. The Supervisor at the time was on his way around 5 satelites on his tagging duty. They called him back early to settle this dispute. I know this supervisor of old. He backed me all the way, as he knew i too was a supervisor for the company in question. They didnt speak to me for 10 days out of a 14 day trip. Apart from we need this job, our families need this job and your just going to get us NRB'd.
I will stand my ground all day with safety out here mate if I am right. As im sure you would. I had a full apology off the control room once they knew the FACTS. But, summing up old pal, if this is the quality that we will get from europe it is frightening and scarey. AND, I personally think we could do with out this, this country has enough to sort out.................
Garry Adams
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Weaver…the thread intimates that it will be Asian Workers not Europeans…
Over the side work: aye, when it was necessary to prove my point…I used to fire a short board over the side and ask the standby vessel to retrieve it…if they came back and said, we cannot launch because of the sea state, if they can't retrieve a board then they can't retrieve a Scaff…end of...
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Weaver are we the only ones on this post…
HELLO out there…any one got and info on this one ???
Over the side work: aye, when it was necessary to prove my point…I used to fire a short board over the side and ask the standby vessel to retrieve it…if they came back and said, we cannot launch because of the sea state, if they can't retrieve a board then they can't retrieve a Scaff…end of...
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Weaver are we the only ones on this post…
HELLO out there…any one got and info on this one ???
jeff.watts
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A job
scaffy 1980
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Im having a permanent prezzie tommorow.......my h4h tattoo on my back....and she whi must be obeyed is paying for it.
jeff.watts
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What u getting scaffy.
scaffy 1980
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Help for heroes design on my lower back......will put a pic on here tommorow to show the lads.
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As I understand it Garry only the qualification would be recognised and holders deemed competent and trained. Any right to work in the UK would still be under control of the Border Agencies.
I guess foreign doctors are allowed to work in the UK with qualifications gained overseas so the powers that be would have to allow scaffolders as long as they have the right visa.
I guess foreign doctors are allowed to work in the UK with qualifications gained overseas so the powers that be would have to allow scaffolders as long as they have the right visa.
Must have missed that bit Garry, work with a few also. Not much kop and robbed all our fuck1ng tools.
Not going to tell that story as my fingers are still hurting from the last one, ha ha ha. Plus Ikram might KILL ME.....
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With all respect HSWT the border agencies are a joke in this country, would you agree? Every man and his dog heads for notso Great Britain at the moment if they have half a chance.:suspicious:
PLUS How the Fook have we got from Santa's sack to imigration?????????????
Never mind.
philliosmaximus
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A well deserved rest with no dramas happening is all I want , feet up snoozing on the sofa