Sliding Fitting for Advance Guardrails

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Mark_ISL

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At the recent NASC meeting, a short video was shown of a pair of fittings with a horizontal tube between, which slid up the standards to form an advance guardrail. Seemed cheaper and more practical than all these aluminium guardrails, but I can't find any info. on it :confused:

Has anyone else seen them, or got any info ?
 
I think I've seen that in draft form. Looks o.k for 20ft towers etc but a 200ft run not so sure. Don't know the slip loading if you fell against it when you gain access to the lift!
 
Do you have any accident reports or method statement remedies in regards this, I saw this video at the last HSE meeting. My comment on this was as before but also I commented on the size of the bag for the amount of rail they were putting up. Also as its a sliding method the wear on the componants would cause a risk.

Any info in regards to faliure would be a great help PM me or send to sccr@sky.com

Regards Ragscaff
 
Mark_ISL said:
At the recent NASC meeting, a short video was shown of a pair of fittings with a horizontal tube between, which slid up the standards to form an advance guardrail. Seemed cheaper and more practical than all these aluminium guardrails, but I can't find any info. on it :confused:

Has anyone else seen them, or got any info ?
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Mark,
I saw the video you are talking about, looked like a possibility until they mentioned you had to have all your hemps in place which kind of defeats the purpose unless I mis heard as like all good scaffs I sat at the back.:D Looked interesting though.
 
aom said:
Mark,
I saw the video you are talking about, looked like a possibility until they mentioned you had to have all your hemps in place which kind of defeats the purpose unless I mis heard as like all good scaffs I sat at the back.:D Looked interesting though.
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Now got the name of the manufacturer, but they don't have a website so waiting to see what I can get from them tomorrow. I thought the idea was good, but had some flaws, so need to get the details from them, and maybe put a few ideas I've had their way :blink1:

Also had a few ideas on a mk.3 scaffolders step, based on some drawbacks on the other versions that were pointed out at the meeting, so waiting for some info back from a ladder manufacturer.

Then at some point in time I might get back to my day job as Finance Director :laugh:
 
It's not the steps that's the problem it's the hand rail blocking your hemp. That sliding hand rail looked good but getting them sleeved out looked like it could cause problems even although they looked like it was easy in the film but I bet it was their tenth take. Any tips for a daft scaff using the step or is your insight on them only for the big boys?

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Sorry Mark gota go talk again though.
 
aom said:
It's not the steps that's the problem it's the hand rail blocking your hemp. That sliding hand rail looked good but getting them sleeved out looked like it could cause problems even although they looked like it was easy in the film but I bet it was their tenth take. Any tips for a daft scaff using the step or is your insight on them only for the big boys?
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Not having been, or ever wanting to be, a scaffolder could mean I'm talking ***** :laugh:, but I don't think any of the current methods could be used more than 2/3rds of the time, never mind every time. It's going to take a combination of methods and equipment to come up with the most practical way forward, including IMHO double lanyards, one of which will have to be a personal inertia block such as the Miller Turbolite.

As for the step, I think the general idea is fine, but the current designs don't work on anything other than 2m lifts - think 1.5m brickies lifts, the ledger for the next lift acting as a guardrail will be at knee height if you're on a 1m step :amazed:
 
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No disrespect to anyone,why are the powers that be making erecting t/f any harder than its suppose to be.Manual handling every fitting tube & spanner any more than it needs.No scaffolder ie part 2 or advanced intend to fall off a scaffold, after many years experience and knowledge of my trade working on Industrial, oil ,petro -chem,Aviation,Gas,Nuclear,Rail,Prisons,Government buildings,Confined space,Ship yards, Sewage plants,Water facilities, Building sites,Tower blocks,Blocks of flats,Bridges over water,Bridges over motorways,town work, Street work,House work,I've seen 1 serious accident on a site i was on,A stonemasons block&tackle dropped a large stone onto a fellas hands,after it had broke loose out of its fixing,All the bosses said at the time was get the blood cleaned off that stone.[Going back a while ago]Nowadays its different,I like to think i'm lucky,I'VE ALWAYS WORKED WITH PROFESIONALS. LONG LIVE THE SCCR ;)
 
What makes me laugh is all the good intentions with new ideas but when put to tradesmen they don't work!!

Advanced rails don't work & step ups are dangerous.

Advanced tunneling is as safe as it gets as well as being fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

20 years doind it I know!!!!!!!:bigsmile:
 
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