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Wish i hadnt started the 'Final showdown' in the SF pub, they are both complete 'Nutters' worse than looking after my 3 Grandkids. If Superscaff75 and Celticbhoy come on trying to be nice...... be advised, it is to try and gain your thanks, let them stew in their own juices boys.:D
 
You fed the monster Paddy.:laugh:
 
lads go to the pub forum and would you please put a thank you under my essay as i need 5thanks from you my fellow proleteriat thank you kind men of tubular steel.may your nights of meriement be many and varied.
 
Lol a ken,lads dnt delay go to the pub forum and thank my post i will be indebted to yous thank you dear scaffs.
 
blah blah blah celtic licky licky bhoy grovelling for votes of thanks WILLIAM WALLACE would be ashamed of you begging the english you jockney cockney turncoat :laugh::nuts:
 
superscaff just remember the tale.........and a certain robert the bruce he also sooked up to english kings then struck his blow and we all know the outcome of that little episode as the little ditty gose SENT THEM HAME AGAIN TAE THINK AGAIN,still thinking to this day.lol dont be sour mate remember there is honour in defeat also.
 
phillio id be better talking to spiders the company im keeping in glasgow at present lol,has anybody seen paddys lad..........eh a mean superscaff??
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyUAvodj0dA]YouTube - Incy Wincy Spider[/ame]

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The Spider Legend
It’s a famous story, but is it true?


For over 500 years, the story of Robert the Bruce did not include a spider. It is believed that the first reference to a spider came from Sir Walter Scott’s 1827 book Tales of A Grandfather being Stories Taken from Scottish History. The text reads as follows:
“…The news of the taking of Kildrummie, the captivity of his wife, and the execution of his brother, reached Bruce while he was residing in a miserable dwelling at Rachrin, and reduced him to the point of despair.

It was about this time that an incident took place, which, although it rests only on tradition in families of the name of Bruce, is rendered probable by the manners of the times. After receiving the last unpleasing intelligence from Scotland, Bruce was lying one morning on his wretched bed, and deliberating with himself whether he had not better resign all thoughts of again attempting to make good his right to the Scottish crown, and, dismissing his followers, transport himself and his brothers to the Holy Land, and spend the rest of his life fighting against the Saracens; by which he thought, perhaps, he might deserve the forgiveness of Heaven for the great sin of stabbing Comyn in the church in Dumfries. But then, on the other hand, he thought it would be both criminal and cowardly to give up his attempts to restore freedom to Scotland, while there yet remained the least chance of his being successful in an undertaking, which, rightly considered, was much more his duty than to drive the infidels out of Palestine, though the superstition of his age might think otherwise.

While he was divided betwixt these two reflections, and doubtful of what he should do, Bruce was looking upward to the roof of the cabin in which he lay; and his eye was attracted by a spider, which, hanging at the end of a long thread of its own spinning, was endeavouring, as is the fashion of that creature, to swing itself from one beam in the roof to another, for the purpose of fixing the line on which it meant to stretch its web. The insect made the attempt again and again without success; and at length Bruce counted that it had tried to carry its point six times, and been as often unable to do so. It came into his head that he himself fought just six battles against the English and their allies, and that the poor persevering spider was exactly in the same situation with himself, having made as many trials, and been as often disappointed in what it aimed at. “Now,” thought Bruce, “ as I have no means of knowing what is best to be done, I will be guided by the luck which shall attend this spider. If the insect shall make another effort to fix its thread, and shall be successful, I will venture a seventh time to try my fortune in Scotland; but if the spider shall fail I will go to the wars in Palestine, and never return to my native country more.”

While Bruce was forming this resolution, the spider made another exertion with all the force it could muster, and fairly succeeded in fastening its thread to the beam which it had so often in vain attempted to reach. Bruce, seeing the success of the spider, resolved to try his own fortune; and as he had never before gained a victory, so he never afterwards sustained any considerable check or defeat. I have often met with people of the name Bruce, so completely persuaded of the truth of this story, that they would not on any account kill a spider; because it was that insect which had shown the example of perseverance, and given a signal of good luck, to their great namesake.

Having determined to renew his efforts to obtain possession of Scotland, notwithstanding the smallness of the means which he had for accomplishing so great a purpose, the Bruce removed himself and his followers from Rachrin to the island of Arran, which lies in the mouth of the Clyde…”
The Real Story?
It’s a fantastic story, and one which is known around the world. However, the spider story was probably first written about Bruce’s close ally Sir James “The Black” Douglas, by David Hume of Godscroft (1560 – 1630) in his The History of the House of Douglas, which was published posthumously in 1643. Hume was a close friend of and secretary to the 8th Earl of Angus, Archibald Douglas. In this book it says:
“…I spied a spider clymbing by his webb to the height of an trie and at 12 several times I perceived his web broke, and the spider fel to the ground. But the 13 tyme he attempted and clambe up the tree..."
It does sound very similar to Sir Walter Scott’s account of Bruce! From this tale comes the well-known expression “If at first you don’t succeed try and try again”.
 
i would like to thank you all in your support and help during the final showdown with superscaff,who i may mention was not as worthy an opponent as i 1st thought lol lol,but apart from that im just happy to emerge VICTORIOUSE.long live scotland long live the porriage clans.ffffrrrrrrrrrreeeeeddddddoooommmmmmm.

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ps id also like to thank granda carr for his impartiality during the contest,in showing no favourtism to his fellow n\east lad.
 
That's the problem with history Paddy, half of it's lies and the other half is just not true.:eek:

If memory serves the saying was if at first you don't succeed.....pull your foreskin over your heed.:eek:
 
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