next doors just had a scaffold put up to fix the roof 13x5 3 lifts dog bones with a further 4 lift thrown on roof with a couple boards to support trainnies outer ledger fixed to standards spurred down to handrail and not standards and inner ledger not spurred back to standards just being supported by trainnies on boards to roof, ladder just tied off with 1 single on each lifts but what makes my laugh the ladder has no gate not even a duck under which is been banned from most sites i believe, just a handrail that stops 4 foot of the ladder on each lift, so basically if you step back your fall off the scaffold is this still the norm with the ladders on the street or building sites or do they think its right, its even got a plack on gate saying hard hats hi viz ect must be warn and a tag, or iam i being a olde fuddee duddy!! its only you cant help looking when your potting your olde summer plants:embarrest: