International Scaffold work

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Whats up Scaffolder's? American Scaff here just wondering if anyone knows about international scaffold jobs?.....My uncle in law and some guys from California went to Khazikstan once and made about 40 thousand for 1 months work teaching all the locals how to use Systems instead of tube and clamp. I'm trying to get on something like that, don't matter how remote or how dangerous just wondering where to start my search.......
 
Welcome brother there are a few on here who work in all sorts of far flung places.most of the guys on here are british but there are a few canadians,australians,kiwis and also a couple of indians.
Everybody wants the good cash and the foreign ventures but they are few and far between but they do exist.
Right time at the right place
were are you from in the states;)
 
Northern California, close to San Francisco. Yea i haven't posted on here in a while but i figured you Brits would have a better idea on out of country work since most guys here in the States don't really travel.
 
You got any work in California 4a British Scaff with an advanced ticket ? Thanks in advance :)
 
You got any work in California 4a British Scaff with an advanced ticket ? Thanks in advance :)

Yea theres alot of work here in the Bay Area (thats what we call the metro area of San Francisco) We have 5 oil refineries in a 20 mile radius that are always doing shutdowns and stuff. As well as a ton of commercial scaffolding in S.F. and Oakland. Your advanced ticket won't do you any good here by the way....
 
There is a fair bit of activity over here at the moment regarding training foreign workers, it appears the Brits are cornering a wee niche market for themselves. If you have the correct qualifications to be a scaffold instructor it might well be worth your while contacting a few English training centres to see what they have on offer. They are all on google and linkedin.

To be honest, California sounds better to me than Kazakhstan.:eek:
 
There is a fair bit of activity over here at the moment regarding training foreign workers, it appears the Brits are cornering a wee niche market for themselves. If you have the correct qualifications to be a scaffold instructor it might well be worth your while contacting a few English training centres to see what they have on offer. They are all on google and linkedin.

To be honest, California sounds better to me than Kazakhstan.:eek:

What exactly qualifies you to be a scaffold instructor over there? I hear all this talk about Advanced Ticket from the Brits, but here in the states i have whats called a Competency Card for erecting Systems, Tube and Clamp and Frame Scaffold's plus my OSHA 30......and i have yet to be asked for them on a job here in the states(crazy how relaxed the States are).....anyways would those certification's apply in any way?
 
You would really need to speak to a training school as I'm afraid I know nothing of how the certification works over there. Here you have to be fully qualified in your own specialist area that you intend to teach, which means an advanced ticket. Then it is just the most basic of teaching qualification you need called PTTLLS level 4 which is a weeks course but you will take a month or two after you finish the course to complete all the work. Once that is complete, you do a shadow course, which just means you sit with an instructor while he delivers a part 1 course so you can pick up as many tips as possible and even help you develop your own style as you think of better ways to do the same thing. You will have to sit this shadow for any course you intend to teach, so if you want to teach part 2 scaffolders then you will have to shadow a part 2 course first. The final hurdle is a small first aid ticket, which I hate and always sent someone else to and a CRB check which is just a basic criminal record check to make sure you didn't hang around with Jimmy and Rolph in the 70's and you are good to go.

It may seem fairly long winded and there will be another route available to you through your own American system, but the British training system seems to be in demand abroad at the moment as most seem to want to use it.

What training schools do they have out there and do they ever send instructors abroad to work?
 
You would really need to speak to a training school as I'm afraid I know nothing of how the certification works over there. Here you have to be fully qualified in your own specialist area that you intend to teach, which means an advanced ticket. Then it is just the most basic of teaching qualification you need called PTTLLS level 4 which is a weeks course but you will take a month or two after you finish the course to complete all the work. Once that is complete, you do a shadow course, which just means you sit with an instructor while he delivers a part 1 course so you can pick up as many tips as possible and even help you develop your own style as you think of better ways to do the same thing. You will have to sit this shadow for any course you intend to teach, so if you want to teach part 2 scaffolders then you will have to shadow a part 2 course first. The final hurdle is a small first aid ticket, which I hate and always sent someone else to and a CRB check which is just a basic criminal record check to make sure you didn't hang around with Jimmy and Rolph in the 70's and you are good to go.

It may seem fairly long winded and there will be another route available to you through your own American system, but the British training system seems to be in demand abroad at the moment as most seem to want to use it.

What training schools do they have out there and do they ever send instructors abroad to work?

We have a training class through our union hall, imactually going tonight to get my card for Frame, Systems and Tube and Clamp scaffold. i've never heard of them sending instructors abroad. Like i said in my earlier post the guys who went to Khaszikstan were all just a bunch of really experianced guys i dont think they had any instructor certifications. I mean would a place even bother w/ me if i had certifications but only 6 years experiance? Heres a link to the classes my Union offers, im starting the Scaffold Erector-Standard class tonight and on june 1 i start the Superintendent / Leadership Training Program class. Would either of those apply?

http://journeyman.ctcnc.org/asp/mem_rpt_course_desc.asp
 
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We have a training class through our union hall, imactually going tonight to get my card for Frame, Systems and Tube and Clamp scaffold. i've never heard of them sending instructors abroad. Like i said in my earlier post the guys who went to Khaszikstan were all just a bunch of really experianced guys i dont think they had any instructor certifications. I mean would a place even bother w/ me if i had certifications but only 6 years experiance? Heres a link to the classes my Union offers, im starting the Scaffold Erector-Standard class tonight and on june 1 i start the Superintendent / Leadership Training Program class. Would either of those apply?

Carpenter's Training Committee of Northern California

I've checked out the link for Scaffold Erectors - Tube and Clamp. 20 hours training with no need of any prior knowledge and you are qualified ?????

I'm afraid that it might be a big shock if you have to come to Britain and finally get to the Advanced ticket stage, but good luck with your search.

Personally, SF sounds rather nice and as i have a brother living out in San Jose, one day i'll get to see it hopefully.........if i can get the bike into and then out of China successfully !!
 
I've checked out the link for Scaffold Erectors - Tube and Clamp. 20 hours training with no need of any prior knowledge and you are qualified ?????

I'm afraid that it might be a big shock if you have to come to Britain and finally get to the Advanced ticket stage, but good luck with your search.

Personally, SF sounds rather nice and as i have a brother living out in San Jose, one day i'll get to see it hopefully.........if i can get the bike into and then out of China successfully !!

Yea are training here is kind of a joke....were part of the Carpenters Union so when it comes to training they don't really put alot of thought or money into the scaffolders classes like they do the regular Carpenters. I had to tell my Carpenter instructor that the clamp he was holding wasn't a right angle but a swivel clamp!!.......yea San Jose is nice, i was just there yesterday looking for work.
 
Sorry matey I have no idea if these courses will help or not, they are becoming quite keen on the British standard I'm afraid.
 
Sorry matey I have no idea if these courses will help or not, they are becoming quite keen on the British standard I'm afraid.

Thanks for the info guys....seems like most of the job posts i have seen have been asking for project manager's and superintendent's.....i've been in 6 years now and can build most anything but i definitly don't have those kind of credentials....
 
in my opinion, I would start with the european and international construction journals as ll big projects are usually announce in these first, well before any contracts have been signed with firms. They also have a listof prefferred suppliers so just contact the scaff firms on there and see if you can work an angle for yourself.

I would start here: OJEC - welcome to OJEC
 
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