Fuuckin house bashin...

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moanalot

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It's been a while since we did any house bashin and to be honest it was a baastard nightmare. you had to work your guts out and put up with a mountain of bullshiit as well. Is it any better these days or should we continue to steer clear of all that nonsense?
 
Still a nightmare mate and still full of ******** as you state.

General public are hard to work for at the best of times!
 
Im on a taylor wimpey site at the mo.......and its fuucking easy. I start at 8 and im back home for half 3 latest. Im getting just over £200 notes a lift and getting about £400 - £500 a house for a strip depending on the size.
As for putting up with bullshiit.......that all comes to how you run it. I dont get any problems.
 
DannyBoy23 said:
Sounds like some attractive price work Scaffy
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It is that danny, however like all price work you have to keep some money back to cover the crap days like " the bad weather ".

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Bobbysupascaff said:
What he doesn't tell you is he gets some else to do the work!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Cheeky fecker......pure lonesome graft mate.
 
The housebuilding market has always been the most competitive market to price. As such the labour margin is always tight otherwise you won't win the work. It's not worth winning if at the end you have paid out all your income in wages and half the materials used do not return or are just scrap. Having said that, as scaffy says a well organised site will end in profit.
 
I think it's fair to say that if you put the right person on the job the work will get done but from my experience back in the office the constant phone calls with the most ridiculous demands just never stop coming, and it also seems that every other day they dream up some new stupid idea of what they want from you that day.
We got asked to price some sites but right from the off when we asked about they're build programme they said we're not sure it depends on sales... How ya supposed to estimate gear and workforce accurately on that basis? Like I said fuuckin nightmare...
 
I found it a total nitemare. Me n 2 lads on a Taylor wimpy at seaton Carew always been took off a job to go other end of site to adjust or strip something else for prickies soz I mean brickies. Would never do house bashing again... To much Shiite to put up with. Hated it.
 
I Have Done It All My Working Life Gents, And Its Never Been Harder Than It Is Right Now, The Money Has Never Recovered Since The Crash, There Is More Are More Going Into Jobs, They Will Not Be Worth Doing On The Prices We Are Getting By The Time You Pay Everything Out They Are Not Worth A ****.
 
Im getting £4 a mt erect jeff on a wimpey site, just shows the price difference between the two area's. For a lift with a loading bay and ladder access is working out at £200 mate and im done by 3ish.
 
That may be all well & good for you as a scaffolder den but your not paying for the materials,transportation cost,repairs & lost gear, public liability ,CITB levy, paperwork cost additional gear to cover new nasc regs, yard costs,vehicle running costs etc the list seems almost endless m8...... I think what some guys are trying to say is the profit ratio can be so low that it only just covers the trading costs,
 
It seems one of their favourite tricks now is to set the benchmark at the lowest quote they get in and then tell all the other firms you're too expensive. I personally don't see how you can quote these jobs to make a profit and win the work...if you have to lower the price to another firms price what's the point in quoting you might as well say tell us the lowest price and we'll knock a tenner off...waankers...
 
90% of our work is housebashing as u call it but we work at the top end of the market but even here the prices are very tight & the profits per unit are low if you concider it takes several weeks to complete so our profit is made on volume but tbh the QS seem to think its still fun to screw you down but thats their job. We often get played against another company who while providing a cheeper service may not be as comprehensive & so get charged xtras also I find its often down to the speed & quality of your service.we have often won work just down to that.
if you can get a good relationship with the QS & they get to realise your not there to rip em off then things go fine. But I must admit the additional stock & work required to stay complient to TG&SG regs has a major effect on both the profits & amount that you need to cover the cost & a well versed QS will realise that....but all the time you get cowboy firms underpricing the true value of the works just to get a job which they then run at a loss or brake even for will allways be to the detriment of our industry & keep both not only our contract prices down but also the wages that we can pay the scaffs
 
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