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Hi fella's

Does anyone know if an A frame guard rail around the roof requires a design?

Thanks in Advance!

Scaffcon
 
scaffcon said:
Hi fella's

Does anyone know if an A frame guard rail around the roof requires a design?

Thanks in Advance!

Scaffcon
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i hope not, we've got problems if they dont think we can do that.

REQUIREMENTS FOR GUARD-RAILS, TOE-BOARDS, BARRIERS AND SIMILAR COLLECTIVE MEANS OF PROTECTION



1. Unless the context otherwise requires, any reference in this Schedule to means of protection is to a guard-rail, toe-board, barrier or similar collective means of protection.
2. Means of protection shall—
(a)be of sufficient dimensions, of sufficient strength and rigidity for the purposes for which they are being used, and otherwise suitable;.
(b)be so placed, secured and used as to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that they do not become accidentally displaced; and.
(c)be so placed as to prevent, so far as is practicable, the fall of any person, or of any material or object, from any place of work..
3. In relation to work at height involved in construction work—(a)the top guard-rail or other similar means of protection shall be at least 950 millimetres or, in the case of such means of protection already fixed at the coming into force of these Regulations, at least 910 millimetres above the edge from which any person is liable to fall;.
(b)toe-boards shall be suitable and sufficient to prevent the fall of any person, or any material or object, from any place of work; and.
(c)any intermediate guard-rail or similar means of protection shall be positioned so that any gap between it and other means of protection does not exceed 470 millimetres..
4. Any structure or part of a structure which supports means of protection or to which means of protection are attached shall be of sufficient strength and suitable for the purpose of such support or attachment.
5.—(1) Subject to sub-paragraph (2), there shall not be a lateral opening in means of protection save at a point of access to a ladder or stairway where an opening is necessary.
(2) Means of protection shall be removed only for the time and to the extent necessary to gain access or egress or for the performance of a particular task and shall be replaced as soon as practicable.
(3) The task shall not be performed while means of protection are removed unless effective compensatory safety measures are in place.
 
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No idea but find it's a stronger job using 2 5 foots in an L, or does it have to be an A?

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I think it just says guard rails just have to be fir for purpose.
 
FFS jakdan makes my wee fit for purpose look totally highland league stuff.
 
ha ha, just wondering? one of my mates is putting one up and said hes been told he needs a design?!!

Ive never done them as an a frame i dont like them!!!!

Thanks for the response guys!
 
i hate all the does it doesn't thing!!!!!

It should be erect it and if it moves or looks dodgy sort it or get a design!
 
Bri said:
i hate all the does it doesn't thing!!!!!

It should be erect it and if it moves or looks dodgy sort it or get a design!
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Two birds with one stone here I hope, edge protection has a code all of it own, BS EN13374:2004 (there may even be a later version)
It has a whole set of onerous requirements which can be a bitch to achieve.
regards
Alan


Just had to edit this as it would appear I can type faster than I can spell!!!
 
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Some firms like kier and skanska have banned the use of a frame unless it's designed, what of Money I reckon but straight up they have banned it, won't be long before others follow I would think
 
scaffcon said:
Hi fella's

Does anyone know if an A frame guard rail around the roof requires a design?

Thanks in Advance!

Scaffcon
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Checked with a designer i know and his answer is

if its not a bog standard scaffold it needs a design

having said we have never had a design done for a guardrail
 
Trouble is the grey area with "what a bog standard scaffold is " to one safety guy its everything needs a design , to another its that is ok without a design.
 
thats the trouble with grey areas you think you know the answer but your never 100% confident your right! Solicitors can turn it on you in a second to win a case!!!
 
Alan Reade said:
Two birds with one stone here I hope, edge protection has a code all of it own, BS EN13374:2004 (there may even be a later version)
It has a whole set of onerous requirements which can be a bitch to achieve.
regards
Alan


Just had to edit this as it would appear I can type faster than I can spell!!!
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Hi Alan,
You beat me to it, I beleive you have the correct version there. How's Dubai? kin snowing here :sad:

Paul
 
philliosmaximus said:
Trouble is the grey area with "what a bog standard scaffold is " to one safety guy its everything needs a design , to another its that is ok without a design.
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Phil if it isn't shown in TG20 then it needs design
 
I find the shorguard system is the best and safest, and roofers can lift each counter weight to carry out there work
 
Been audited regularly by Simian and we were informed that we needed design info for edge protection!!!!!
 
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