CISRS System Product Courses

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I'm wondering if anyone can help me here,

Say a Part 2 Tube and Fitting Scaffolder with Kwikstage Product Update Course on Card.

Does this mean he cant work on any other Scaffolds apart from Tube and fitting and Kwikstage?

Can he work on Cuplock or would he only be able to labour and not erect?

Cheers.
 
What a load of Boll ocks our game has become if your a scaffolder then your a scaffolder
 
I Have To Agree With Phil If You Are A Scaffolder And All That, But The Nasc And Insurance Companies And The Mcg Of House Builders Say Otherwise, If The Scaffolder In Question Has Tube And Kwikstage On His Card Then He Is Deemed Competent In Both OF These, He Would Have To Go And Do The Cuplok System Product Training Course Which Would Cost About £450 Plus Vat For A Two Day Course, (Normally Done Over The Weekend) I Did Both The Kwikstage And The Cuplok Courses And Learned Zilch (Because I Have Been Using Both Systems For Years) But No Add-Ons No Work Up Here Buddy, Its The Same For Every System If You Are Using Plus Eight Or Peri You Have To Have The Add-On,
 
This is from the HSE website

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Competence and supervision issues
All employees should be competent (or in the case of trainees, supervised by a competent person) for the type of scaffolding work they are undertaking and should have received appropriate training relevant to the type and form of scaffolding they are working on.Employers must provide appropriate levels of supervision taking into account the complexity of the work and the levels of training and competence of the scaffolders involved.
As a minimum requirement, every scaffold gang should contain an appropriately qualified scaffolder for the type and complexity of the scaffold to be erected, altered or dismantled. This may be an individual who has received training under an industry recognised training scheme, e.g. CISRS, and has been awarded the scaffolder card or someone who has received training under a recognised manufacturer/supplier scheme, to the limit of the configuration(s) involved.
Trainee scaffolders should always work under the direct supervision of a qualified scaffolder (i.e. a working foreman). Scaffolders are classed as 'trainees' until they have completed the approved training and assessment required to be deemed qualified.
Erection, alteration and dismantling of complex designed scaffolding (e.g. suspended scaffolds, shoring, temporary roofs etc) should be done under the direct supervision of a competent person. This may be a qualified Advanced scaffolder, a design engineer providing they possess the necessary industry experience or alternatively an individual who has received training under a recognised manufacturer/supplier scheme to the limit of the configuration(s) involved.

We used to buy loads of Layher on the firm I worked for, they used to do a days training thrown in for free and issue a certificate to say you were competent. Its only the NASC and CISRS that want you to have their qualification and pay them for it, its not the law.
 
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It`s just the training establishments trying to make a buck,they are called system scaffolds for a reason (erect to a system ) . The patent companies must be gutted that they have come up with a scaffold system that is so complicated every scaffolder needs trained to use it.
 
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