A few questions

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Hi, been a while since I posted on here but I've got a few questions for you on behalf of the lads at work and myself.

The first one is.. Can a part 2 scaffolder sign off scaffolds (on the scaff tags) and inspect them every week?

The second is.. Can a part 2 scaffoler build a scaffold over 50' ?

The third is.. Do you have to be an advanced scafolder to build a proper drawing job?

Thank you very much. I look forward to hearing the correct answers :smile1:
 
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Q: Who is competent to inspect a scaffold?

Legislation specifies that anyone carrying out an inspection must be competent to do so. To be competent that person must have the necessary training, knowledge and experience.

As a minimum the NASC would recommend:
a) A CISRS Scaffolder cardholder would be deemed competent to inspect the scaffold structures that are covered in the CISRS Part 1 & Part 2 courses provided their employer can demonstrate they have the necessary knowledge and experience.

b) A CISRS Advanced Scaffolder cardholder would be deemed competent to inspect the scaffold structures that are covered in the CISRS Part 1, Part 2 & Advanced courses provided their employer can demonstrate they have the necessary knowledge and experience.
The contents and overall objectives of the CISRS courses can be found in the CAP 609 General Information Booklet Appendix A-C page 26-30. CISRS - the industry recognised scaffold training scheme

c) A CISRS Scaffolding Supervisor cardholder would be deemed competent to inspect the basic scaffold structures that are covered in the CISRS Part 1 and Part 2 courses provided their employer can demonstrate they have the necessary knowledge and experience. If they also hold an Advanced Scaffolders card, then they would be deemed competent to inspect advanced structures.


d) A person who has been on a Basic Scaffold Inspection Course * (min. two days) would be deemed competent to inspect a basic scaffold structure provided their employer can demonstrate they have the necessary knowledge and experience and they have passed the knowledge test at the end of the course.

This course is suitable for: Management/Supervision who are responsible for inspecting scaffolds and completing reports in accordance with the Work at Height Regulations 2005.

Note: If candidates who have attended the Basic Course want to inspect more complex scaffolds, then they will need to complete the Advanced Course after they have gained sufficient experience inspecting Basic Scaffolds on a regular basis.

e) A person who has been on an Advanced Scaffold Inspection Course * (min. two days) would be deemed competent to inspect more complex scaffold structures provided their employer can demonstrate they have the necessary knowledge and experience and they have passed the knowledge test at the end of the course.

This course is suitable for: Experienced Scaffold Inspectors, Management/Supervision who are responsible for inspecting, commissioning and handing over scaffolds, and completing reports in accordance with the Work at Height Regulations 2005.

f) Persons who are required to carry out inspections of System Scaffolds must, in addition to the basic scaffold inspection course, attend an approved product training course for the specific system scaffold required and have their card endorsed with the product selected.
 
Hi,

To answer question 2 and 3.

Yes he can but depends on TG20 compliance.
ie drawing.

You dont have to be advanced to erect a design job, dependent on what the design is for.
Temporary roof, shoring, suspended scaffolds etc are technically advanced jobs.
 
So do you need a drawing to go over 50'?
 
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Not even as simple as that these days.

TG20 has so many different options according to loading, location in the country etc etc. Number of working lifts, so on and so on.
 
There is no legal requirement to be a CISRS card holder to erect any scaffolding. If you can prove your competent in the eyes of the law this is enough.


core definition
Competence is the acquisition of knowledge skills and abilities at a level of expertise sufficient to be able to perform in an appropriate work setting (within or outside academia).
 
Thanks for the replies.
 
You and your employer could consider you had both the competency and knowledge to erect the scaffold, but in the event of an accident and you ended up before the law how could you convince the judge or jury of your competency, given that another officer of the law, the prosecuting council would argue that it was your lack of competency that had you in the dock. I accept the same could apply to a ticketed scaffolder, but the prosecutor would be unlikely to call into question his competency, he would instead go down the negligent road to get a conviction.

Sorry, Meant to address the post to Scaffolding Safety Services.
 
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brandy said:
You and your employer could consider you had both the competency and knowledge to erect the scaffold, but in the event of an accident and you ended up before the law how could you convince the judge or jury of your competency, given that another officer of the law, the prosecuting council would argue that it was your lack of competency that had you in the dock. I accept the same could apply to a ticketed scaffolder, but the prosecutor would be unlikely to call into question his competency, he would instead go down the negligent road to get a conviction.
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Very true.
 
I completley agree with the comment regarding cisrs qualification or any other qualifications for that matter.

Without formal qualifications how do you prove compitence.
Employer testimonies count for jack in the eyes of the law.
 
thats how it is... no tickets.. difficult to prove competency in the eyes of the law..
 
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